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  1. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    I've reviewed your posts in this thread and I see that you've chosen to circle your "intellectual wagons" around your Jesuit "Left Behind" Futurism theory, rather than allow it to stand the test of Biblical and historic scrutiny with regard to the issue of "the restrainer". I'm not surprised in...
  2. Phoneman777

    Two Ways of thinking about OSAS

    No, I will not answer multiple accusations in one post. One at a time or none at all, thank you very much. BTW, it is YOU CALVINISTS who call God a Cosmic Rapist, not me, for my God would never force Himself on me or anyone else. Why do you accuse Him of rape? Why do you accuse Him of forcing...
  3. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Jeremiah, Paul, Ezekiel disagree with you, the Pope, and all other subscribers to Jesuit Futurism (which they manufactured as a desperate damage control measure when the Protestant Historicists were handing their butts to them during the Reformation). Put down Emerging Church propaganda and...
  4. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    No, the only "rapture" in Scripture takes place at the sudden visible, audible, and experiential coming of Christ (2 Thessalonians 2) when He comes "as a thief", meaning "unexpectedly" just as the flood came upon the Antediluvians "unexpectedly" and fire and brimstone fell on Sodom and Gomorrah...
  5. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Even a casual reader of Revelation 8 can see that what is depicted therein has NOTHING to do with "assemblies" or whatever else a "trumpet" might represent in the Bible, but that it has EVERYTHING to do with war and conflict, which the Bible full well represents by the symbol "trumpet", as...
  6. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Daniel's "sealed" book was opened after the fulfilled heavenly signs heralded the "time of the end" and unfortunately, what was "sweet in the mouth" (the belief in the soon return of Christ) turned "bitter in the belly", when He didn't come, and the disappointment was heavy as many abandoned...
  7. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    yes, the but context of Revelation 8 is certainly not an "assembly", right? It's filled with the language of conflict
  8. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Who says the "third parts" must be literal? Fallen human reasoning? No one can hope to correctly understand Daniel and Revelation unless one first grasps an understanding of the Sanctuary service because both books are well represented with Sanctuary imagery. The prophecies given by Jesus in...
  9. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    It is a violation of Scriptural directive to interpret prophetic symbols by any means other than the Bible itself - we are forbidden from utilizing headlines, hashtags, popular consensus or any other such extra-Biblical means to interpret prophetic symbols. Proof? "Knowing this first, that no...
  10. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Trekson, please remember that the only time the "day for a year" principle is employed is when the prophetic time period is given in an obviously SYMBOLIC manner. God's revelation of the forty days rain was obviously a literal revelation, but Jacob's "week" that he'd fulfill for Rachel was...
  11. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    The fact that the Catholic "church" has 1.2 billion members should be evidence enough for anyone with even a casual understanding of the Scriptures to flee from it, seeing that Jesus said, "wide is the gate and broad is the way that leadeth to destruction, and MANY there be that go in thereat."...
  12. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    It never ceases to amaze me how people can open a symbolic book, read things like "a third part of the trees" and then look around to see whether one third of the earth's trees have been destroyed. Revelation is SYMBOLIC. The "third parts" must be interpreted to mean something other than "one...
  13. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    Brother, it is PRECISELY due to selfish pride of the nations and the resulting jockeying for position which is the main hindrance for why they can't get their final NWO act together and usher in the most horrific era the world will ever see, and I praise God that by allowing this delay, He...
  14. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    You make what appears to be an excellent point, but using "evil doesn't hold back evil" as an argument for rejecting Pagan Rome as the Restrainer is subjective reasoning: it implies that the Restrainer must consciously, knowingly, and proactively exercise force in preventing the rise of the "man...
  15. Phoneman777

    Who Is "the Restrainer" In 2 Thess. 2:6-7

    You do realize that the Bible itself actually give us a definition of "great things and blasphemies" which should be used to interpret what kind of words the Antichrist will speak, right? Luke 5:21 KJV and John 10:33 KJV. Why opt for an interpretation of the prophetic symbol of "blasphemy"...
  16. Phoneman777

    Calling All "Left Behind" Theology Believers (you up to the challenge?)

    For the record, I never claimed Paul identified the "man of sin" to the Thessalonians during his earlier visit to them. If you re-read what I posted, I said that Paul during his earlier visit to them told the Thessalonians the identity of the "restrainer" (not the "man of sin") because Paul says...
  17. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Paul the apostle wrote under inspiration that Abraham was "the father of us all", which even a blind man can see refers to "father" in the biological sense. Therefore, your warning of damnation if we call dear ol' dad "father" is invalidated, just as the instructions of the RCC to call priests...
  18. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    Don't be obtuse. You know full well that both Jesus and the RCC mean "father" in the "spiritual" sense, and not just the biological sense, which is perfectly acceptable. Either stop calling your priests or your pope "father" in the spiritual sense or stop calling yourself a follower of Christ.
  19. Phoneman777

    If machine guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have machine guns

    OK, I'm beginning to think that this conversation is a "doubtful disputation" taking away from the ever present priority of spreading the everlasting Gospel of Jesus, so I'll give you the last word after saying for every confiscation, many more get past, that pipe bombs and dirty bombs are kept...
  20. Phoneman777

    The Catholic Church gets put down a lot, but it was all that could help

    RCC says, "Call them father." Jesus said, "Call no man 'father', you have but one Father, which is in heaven." I think it is clear that both the RCC and Jesus are meant to say "SPIRITUAL FATHER". In other words, the RCC says to refer to priests and the pope as our "SPIRITUAL FATHER", while...