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  1. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    So then, it is only your interpretation that says that everlasting punishment is not a never-ending situation! There is no biblical basis to say that Matthew 25:41 and Matthew 25:46 are definitely speaking of a situation that isn't never-ending.
  2. J

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I probably should have included verses 5&6: Exo 20:4, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exo 20:5, Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve...
  3. J

    The "like manner" of Acts 1:9-11

    Jesus didn't sin in violating the letter of the sabbath, because: 1) Jesus is the Lord of the sabbath (Matthew 12:8, Mark 2:28) 2) He came not after a carnal commandment but after the power of an endless life (Hebrews 7:16) 3) With the change in priesthood (Jesus being High Priest according to...
  4. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    Indeed, the Lord is a just judge. Pro 28:5, Evil men understand not judgment: but they that seek the LORD understand all things.
  5. J

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I didn't see what scripture you used. But I will amply show you the opposite with scripture: Exo 20:4, Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Right there in...
  6. J

    The myth of grace-only & easy-believism shattered forever

    I don't need a scriptural leg to stand on...my position is based on common sense. People who are about to get married generally intend to have relations with their soon-to-be spouse. What makes Mary an exception to this rule? How about Ezra 4:21... Ezr 4:21, Give ye now commandment to cause...
  7. J

    The false premise of Universalism.

    Rom 3:23, For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:24, Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: You don't have to be a saint, as the catholic church defines it, in order to be saved. All you have to do is believe in Jesus.
  8. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    However, we must certainly receive Christ to be in Christ (John 1:12).
  9. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    If everlasting or for ever means only a limited period of time (as it refers to everlasting punishment), then it follows that our everlasting life is only for a limited period of time also.
  10. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    @Hobie is preaching a false gospel that amounts to everyone who is saved living for one aion and then perishing. For all I know, he may also be trying to get Universalism into the picture; but I don't know. At least, in his view, it is oblivion that we are all headed to, so we will not be...
  11. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    There are some who believe that 2 Thessalonians 1:9 indicates annihilation because it refers to everlasting destruction. However, there is a formula in algebra that on the graph, as x increases, y gets cut in half with each new number of x. It results in a curve on the graph in which there is...
  12. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    I don't think that they cease to exist. But if you want to take chances on eternity, go right ahead. I think that your pov is conducive to many degrees less of the fear of the LORD (not only for you but for those to whom you are preaching); and this could very well result in a person not going...
  13. J

    The "like manner" of Acts 1:9-11

    There was still plenty of time in their lives for them to repent later on. You really should read Luke 6:37.
  14. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    As for 1 Corinthians 15:22, I believe that the words "in Christ" are telling of the reality of the matter. Some are not in Christ, having not believed in Him. Therefore they are not made alive.
  15. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    You didn't answer the question, @Helen. I don't know about you; but I don't want to live for merely an aion and then perish. I believe that Jesus promises everlasting life in the way that we normally understand that word in English. It is the making of cults to attempt to change the...
  16. J

    The "like manner" of Acts 1:9-11

    The point that I made was that the scripture is clear that Jesus broke the sabbath; as much as that twinges your emotions to hate the truth of the matter. Jesus did not sin in breaking the sabbath, however; because 1) He is the Lord of the sabbath (Matthew 12:8, Mark 2:28); 2) He did not come...
  17. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    How long do those live who have everlasting life, before they perish?
  18. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    Mat 13:41, The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; Mat 13:42, And shall cast them into a furnace of fire (as punishment): there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Mat 13:49, So shall it be at...
  19. J

    Does "For Ever" mean forever?

    "For ever" or "everlasting" doesn't mean for ever but only a limited time? Then we do not have everlasting life (life that will prosper into eternity). Our life will end after precisely one aion at which time we shall perish. This is no gospel at all; and also perverts what Jesus was plainly...