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The whole world is the whole world without exception! He loves even sinners even though they might not be His child but, just His creation. He came FOR the lost, sinners and all were lost and sinful, and many will remain in that state. But if the bible says He died for the sins of the world...

I believe the "elect" are all Christians, the Jews were pretty appalled that the Gentiles would be included in The Kingdom of God. Ephesians were gentiles, and it was according to Gods good pleasure to include them in redemption. John 3:16 couldn't be any clearer either :)

The Amalekites were Jew haters. They were also the first to attack God's chosen after their sojourn in the desert. The way I see it is not that God created them to be this way but that God already knows what will be chosen by a people (His foreknowledge), and works with and uses their choices...

According to this doctrine, God chooses before anybody is even born for Heaven or Hell and, even though they are stillborn infants, or die as a toddler and also those who are willing but are not the "elect" are sent to Hell for His glory. That is the worst part. That is not a forgiving...

Once I get into my other computer, I will send it to you ♥

But, yes I DO know the gift exists because I heard and I responded to the Word of God through a preacher: Romans 10:14 - "How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone...

BTW Rita, your Avatar is cute :)

I too, like Helen am here for fellowship, learning about others views and, it gets me into scripture :)

I wonder if all can adapt. Have you ever seen a movie called Chloe And Theo? It was very thought provoking. :)

Hi Jane, I might be wrong but, I think @stunnedbygrace was being tongue n cheek here?

I can thoroughly respect that.

Oh boy, takes all kinds! I am thinking this is why he is somewhat a ladies man -> he kept getting new girlfriends :D

Accepting a gift is not obedience nor is it a "works" Dave. It is generally seen as being impolite to NOT accept a gift from someone. Just because the sins of the world have been paid for does not mean that all will accept this free gift from God. Let's say a friend calls and say's they just...

Oh I agree, laughter is edifying! I crack my own self up sometimes and just laugh by myself...hahaha...mostly when I think of certain things that happened and were, to me, hilarious. Silly stuff. My favorite was the "Shar-pei" one :D

{JJ} :)

Okay how do you double post someones post??! Hahaha! :confused: "How can you have one and not the other??! I was referring here, to "knowing and believing in Jesus" You cannot have one without the other. "I've got to the point in my life now that I have suspended believing in things. Neither...

"Where did it begin, where does it end." "Isaiah 45:7 - " I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things." So, I believe this is where evil comes from, a loving God. Some would have you believe How can you have one and not the other...

:D...but not :oops:

"Shouldn't the Christian say I know Jesus, and not I believe in him?" I would think yes, a Christian should say they "know" Jesus. Saying that, I would also say that to know Him is believing in Him :)

Yes, those were the best characters! I so loved Gilda Radner and, such a shame her passing so young...and Gene Wilder (not an SNL Guy) is one of my most favorite comedians (was)!