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  1. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    I think that you secretly hate the Lord with a passion, @Dave L. That is excellent and bears repeating. By this you intend to say that salvation comes before faith. However, we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand, Romans 5:2. Therefore faith is the catalyst for entering...
  2. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Now you are taking my words out of context, and your intent appears to be based in some sort of malice. 1Pe 2:1, Wherefore laying aside all malice, and all guile, and hypocrisies, and envies, and all evil speakings, 1Pe 2:2, As newborn babes, desire the sincere milk of the word, that ye may...
  3. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Because we can always learn from others in the body of Christ. However, we can learn just as easily through our own personal reading and the other is not really even needed. Um, "bruh" ;), I think that I was merely stating almost verbatim what is contained in the verses referenced. So your...
  4. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    At the same time, we do not need anyone to teach us, 1 John 2:20, 1 John 2:27.
  5. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Indeed...however when we are faced with the word of the Lord we have the option of believing it or having unbelief concerning it.
  6. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Rom 10:17, So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.
  7. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Fruit develops over time. Mar 1:22, And they were astonished at his doctrine: for he taught them as one that had authority, and not as the scribes. The scribes taught by relying on the words of other men to substantiate their pov. I will go with those who speak with the authority of the Lord...
  8. J

    Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?

    Not necessarily. Did Paul the apostle have the true Christ? Yet, he was labeled as a heretic by people who claimed to have faith in the Lord God (Acts 24:14 (kjv)). People in church history who have labeled similar doctrine to what I believe as heresy were not necessarily true Christians...
  9. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    This is based on a faulty understanding of Ephesians 2:8-9. In that passage, it should be clear that it is salvation that is not from ourselves and the gift of God; but that this is not referring to faith itself.
  10. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Must a person be saved in order to bear fruit? You have salvation coming before faith. However, this is contrary to what the Bible teaches.
  11. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Then people must be saved long enough to produce fruit before they can be saved through faith. An oxymoron.
  12. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    We have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand; and the Holy Spirit comes in through the grace of the Lord. Therefore you have grace coming in before faith, which presents two problems: 1) grace before faith presupposes that there is no necessity for faith in our salvation. 2) it is...
  13. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Faith is a work of the flesh? I have to say that I see your understanding as warped to say the least.
  14. J

    Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?

    Not exactly. 1) I believe that the three are eternally present. And 2) the Son does not become the Holy Spirit, that is not accurate to my belief. The Spirit of the Son is the Holy Spirit; and He released Him back to the Father who inhabiteth eternity.
  15. J

    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Or, 4) God completely saves them as the result of their faith in Him.
  16. J

    Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?

    I believe that Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are distinct Persons within the Godhead. Open your eyes for a change and try to understand the doctrine that I am setting forth; instead of looking at it with hyper-critical eyes and attempting to judge it as heresy. There is one God. I posted at one...
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    The Flawed Reasoning Of Total Depravity

    Hey, "bruh" ;), we have access by faith into this grace wherein we stand; and we are saved by grace through faith. I'm not sure what it is about this that you don't understand. But just taking it as it is written in the English language, it is pretty clear to me that we cannot be saved apart...
  18. J

    Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?

    And you continue to insist that my beliefs are anti-trinitarian. However, you cannot get inside my brain to know what I am thinking; so I will tell you yet again that you are wrong about what I believe in. I believe in the Trinity. And I know the Christ of the Bible; but you do not know Him...
  19. J

    Is belief in the Trinity necessary for salvation?

    Jesus Christ of Nazareth is my Lord and Saviour; and I have a living relationship with Him. In judging my salvation, you show that you have no concept of Him; for you have three fingers pointing back at you when you point your finger at me and judge me as not knowing Him. As a matter of fact...