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Rom 5:3, And not only so, but we glory in tribulations also: knowing that tribulation worketh patience; Rom 5:4, And patience, experience; and experience, hope: Rom 5:5, And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the Holy Ghost which is given unto us...

I see that you don't have an answer.

But, of course, you are not going to explain it to me; even though I have asked you to, in post #'s 23 and 29, above. Most certainly you know the truth! (and are withholding it from the general public). If I am mistaken in my understanding that I have posted in the posts (#23 and #29) above...

If you go to the original link, I changed it so that it links closer to the end of that thread where it will become more clear what I am talking about. It even becomes clear that certain people were even requiring me to hunt the thimble; so I can see where you are coming from on that. I will...

What we are defending is the way in to salvation. In Calvinism, the way in becomes unnecessary according to the doctrine; while in reality the way in is still necessary. Therefore people are left with the impression that they don't have to enter in through the door but that the Lord will...

I forgive you.

It is answered in the posts subsequent to post #488; for anyone who will receive the truth of the matter.

Mar 5:41, And he took the damsel by the hand, and said unto her, Talitha cumi; which is, being interpreted, Damsel, I say unto thee, arise. Mar 7:34, And looking up to heaven, he sighed, and saith unto him, Ephphatha, that is, Be opened. The apostles who penned the gospels gave the...

Apparently we can disregard 1 Corinthians 12 and 14...we can cut these passages out of our Bibles, because they do not apply to today. I would ask you why you think God included those words within the holy canon of scripture.

Is there a third covenant after the New Covenant, in which tongues are taken out of the picture?

Of course it says in Mark 16, And these signs shall follow them that believe...but only for a limited period of time.

So the Holy Spirit changed? I don't think so. Mal 3:6, For I am the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

One kingdom is about fruit, the other bears thorns. I don't know about them, but I have been feeling pricked; and not by the Holy Spirit either. Jesus says, Sng 2:2, As the lily among thorns, so is my love among the daughters. He comforts me letting me know that I am of His bride.

Why would the Lord give certain spiritual gifts to people only over a short period before the 2nd Century? Is the Holy Spirit different after a certain point in time? On the contrary, Heb 13:8, Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever.

Evidently they take the doctrine of Total Depravity as a license to sin. For, as the saying goes, "Actions speak louder than words". And it's more like, Abba, I pray that you will receive them as sons according to Hebrews 12:6.

I already did this...so go back and try to decipher what I posted... It appears to me that you are not seeing my pov on purpose.

Usually the bully in any situation does not get hurt; for he is the one doing the hurting. Although, if he messes with the wrong person, he could end up with a proverbial black eye (I'm not saying I'm that person).

You may have to read this entire thread to get the picture: Without unconditional Election,no one would be saved.