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  1. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    It is both the same Spirit, and it is a distinct Spirit from the 1st. How, you ask... The Father inhabiteth eternity; but He became a Man, who died and gave up His Spirit back to the One who inhabiteth eternity. The One who inhabiteth eternity dwells throughout eternity and cannot vacate it...
  2. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Unfortunately, it was most likely the modalistic Monarchianists who had been baptized in Jesus' Name, and thus had the true Holy Ghost; while the majority that won the contest...very likely through continually pointing the finger with the charge of heresy to the opposing point of view, rather...
  3. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    It is "nonsense" (i.e. foolishness) only to you and those who think according to a carnal mindset. And the One who has fed it to me is the Holy Ghost. 1Co 1:18, For the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved it is the power of God. 1Co 1:21...
  4. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    I would simply refer you to my opening statement in post #1. Trinity II If it can be shown from scripture that (8) The Son is the Holy Spirit, (being the 2nd and 3rd Persons of the Trinity,) (9) although the Son is primarily come in the flesh; and (10) The Holy Spirit is the Father; then we...
  5. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    I don't know why you keep insisting on this...apparently you don't understand that what I have preached is the word of the Lord concerning the Trinity...but because it doesn't fit into the little box that is your conception of it, you reject the Trinity as it is presented by the scriptures...
  6. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    He was temptable in His humanity. In His Deity He could not be tempted. We cannot understand how these things worked themselves out within the Lord's psyche. I would venture to say that there was no danger of the Lord succumbing to the temptations of the enemy; although He was truly tempted...
  7. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Yes, it is the same Person. Nevertheless He is a Person distinct from the 1st; because He has the added nature of humanity in who He is. The 1st Person dwells outside of time: Isa 57:15, For thus saith the high and lofty One that inhabiteth eternity, whose name is Holy; I dwell in the high...
  8. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    What teacher have I attacked? I have not mentioned any names, and neither have I attacked any doctrine that defines itself as Trinitarian. If in defining the Trinity accurately I am held to be attacking those who have taught it inaccurately, then that is like saying that a person who handles...
  9. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    It is both Oneness and the Trinity (the true Trinity: neither confounding the Persons nor dividing the substance)). First of all, you must realize that the Spirit of Jesus is the Father: God the Father is a Spirit: Jhn 4:23, But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall...
  10. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Most certainly there is a distinction between the members; and in the death of Jesus on the Cross there is even separation. Now that He is risen from the dead however, that separation no longer exists.
  11. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Therefore you were responding back to me; for I am contending that what I am preaching (in posts #1-#4) is the true Trinity. shortcut: Trinity II
  12. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Also, it wasn't my claim, but the claim of holy scripture: [Rom 1:3 KJV] Concerning his Son Jesus Christ our Lord, which was made of the seed of David according to the flesh; [Isa 45:11 KJV] Thus saith the LORD, the Holy One of Israel, and his Maker, Ask me of things to come concerning my...
  13. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    In His humanity. In His Deity He is God Almighty, self-existent and uncreated.
  14. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    When Jesus died on the Cross, His soul and Spirit were separated from His human body. He commended His Spirit into the hands of the Father immediately before He died. That is how death is defined: separation. The human Jesus (who was fully God in His humanity) became sin for us that we might...
  15. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    My Trinity doctrine (as it is presented in posts #1-#4...shortcut: Trinity II) does not conflict with the scriptures; and is also compatible with Oneness doctrine to show that the true Trinity is indeed faithful and sound doctrine for those who have been baptized in Jesus' Name.
  16. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Where do I admit having not done this. I have studied the doctrines as they exist in the holy scriptures; and I am also aware of what is written in the creeds on the subject. You appear to want to bear false witness as to my testimony.
  17. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    @Dave L, Instead of condemning the teaching of another on the concept of the Trinity, you should set forth your own concept of it. If yours is superior, it will hold more weight in the minds of the people than would a false concept when the two are compared. It has been said that the people...
  18. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Surely now, you are the judge of motivations...Jesus "insulted" the scribes and Pharisees, calling them what I have called you...and He is love. Think with me...in John 5:24 and John 10:28 we find that if someone is truly born again, they shall never perish and shall not come into...
  19. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    1Jo 5:1, Whosoever believeth that Jesus is the Christ is born of God: and every one that loveth him that begat loveth him also that is begotten of him. Act 4:10, Be it known unto you all, and to all the people of Israel, that by the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, whom ye crucified, whom God...
  20. J

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    Indeed. Therefore He was not sinning in calling the Pharisees hypocrites; and He was in fact acting according to love. Therefore, since Jesus' behaviour is what defines holiness (not sinning), when He called the Pharisees hypocrites He wasn't sinning, and it is also not sinning for us to do...