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Indeed Triumph...I think it is all in the desire to search and seek TRUTH...Yes, God can and often does use "false teachers" and erroneous teaching to initially bring in those who are seeking. IF they truly are searching for TRUTH---God WILL bring them into ALL Truth We all need to be Bereans...

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"2. There are those that believe saved is reading this good news of salvation, believing it, confessing and repenting of sin, being baptized into Christ as performing steps that condition our heart to accepting this grace and gift of God into our hearts and to be a part of God’s spirit within us...

My puny take on this question is that the O.T. saints were looking forward, or ahead to their Christ. They believed God. The Spirit did not live inside them at that point in time. The Spirit worked without. After Pentecost, all believers received the Holy Spirit, and He lives within us...

"..satan's hold was broken" AMEN to that!

"Poverty is a curse..." This whole world is cursed. So, are you saying that all those many 3rd world countries...where the majority of human beings live in poverty have been cursed? And, by who?

Did not Jesus Himself say the poor we will always have around us?

The spirit IMO on this forum is a hundred fold "kinder". Just did not care for it there.

Oh hmmm.. is CF for Protestants only? I am wondering if that is a site I subscribed to a little while back. I have gone there maybe 5 or 6 times. Lot's of stringency there and, I did not care much for the spirit among many of the posters...I like it here...was like coming back home after a...

@Grams - Here is one I use sometimes because it has a LOT of ones you can play with by yourself: http://www.royalgames.com/

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Oh Helen! Prayers are being lifted up as I write this now. I have wondered where you and GG have been. Hurts my heart that you are not feeling well :( I must get off as there is a pressing matter also concerning a friend of 43 years...I am needing to get into some prayer right now! Be well...

And...is not the desires of our heart been placed in there by the Holy Spirit? And what exactly is it this prosperity "gospel" consider the "desires of your heart? Material riches in this world?? I will NEVER agree with that...If one is truly saved, your own desires are replaced by God...

Philippians 4:11-12 11Not that I speak in respect of want: for I have learned, in whatsoever state I am, to be content. 12I know both how to be abased, and I know how to abound: everywhere and in all things I am instructed both to be full and to be hungry, both to abound and to suffer need.

"It's a mystery to me how anyone could be of that theology." DITTO

Back in early 1990's, The pastor said all kinds of erroneous things concerning "prosperity". One of the things he said stands out in my memory and a red flag sure did rise up...even though I was quite the babe in Christ...He said "God doesn't want his children to be driving around in junker...

Personally, I have absolutely nothing BUT reverence for what the Cross represents. My only issue is the cross that still has Christ depicted ON IT...He has risen, so why depict His "image" still on the cross? I never understood this as a child and just hated seeing Him still on the cross. Is...

Not a problem...I have done the same thing a few times :)

"But laying a heavy burden on someone ill and possibly dying, that they lack faith...I now see is blasphemy against the Holy Spirit and a lie. " <----Spot on...I just assumed I did not have enough faith :rolleyes:. Your post could have been written by myself! It was a very confusing time in my...

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