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In order for the Trinity to be a reality, God would have to be One Person and yet also Three. Because we have a Personal God and therefore our one God is a Person. God is a Spirit (John 4:24). And there is one Spirit (Ephesians 4:4). To me it is very simple; but I don't think you are ready...

My point was that when He returns, every eye shall see Him (Revelation 1:7). Therefore the scripture that was quoted was taken out of context (I went back and put the thing in question in larger print in his quote for you).

See Isaiah 1:18. Tritheism is believing in three Gods; it can be your theology even if you don't pick one out of the three. If you worship all three then you still have three Gods. The true Trinity has the reality in it that there is one God. And He is the same Spirit, the same Lord, and...

So you're saying they are one in purpose and are all three exactly alike. Unfortunately, what you have there is not the Trinity but Tritheism.

There is one Lord (Ephesians 4:5, 1 Corinthians 8:6, Matthew 11:25, Luke 10:21). I count three from your perspective. Now I like the equation 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. But 1 + 1 +1 = 1 simply does not fly with me. Really though, I think it is more like the equation 1 = 1 = 1. Or, a = 1, b = 1, c = 1...

How is it that you don't think I was declaring the Triune nature of God? I thought I made it clear that the post was proof of the Trinity.

I believe you; thousands wouldn't. Except Jesus ascended to be outside of time, Ephesians 4:10. Because time is a created thing and is only the fourth dimension; there are six above it according to the Bible codes of Genesis 1.

What kind of unity? How are they unified? I need you to describe more clearly what you are saying.

That is simply an argument, that is refuted by 1 Peter 3:20-21. My understanding is that Jesus applies the blood when we go under the water in His name (confessing Him before men). Going forward in church or in a Crusade is too anonymous impaho, unless you just begin to serve the Lord from...

So you are saying that you think they are one in purpose but not the same Spirit, the same Lord, and the same God?

Hi @Enoch111, Which member of the Trinity is not the Lord? The Father or the Son?

Also, in Romans 8:30, it is said that basically He justifies and glorifies those whom He has called. And this has a powerful bearing on the subject of whether baptism in Jesus' name is optional or necessary.

While I believe that a person can receive the Holy Spirit through merely asking (though seeking and knocking is surely an element...Luke 11:9-13), I believe that the Holy Ghost is absolutely promised to those who receive baptism in Jesus' name. And it is for the remission of sins, after...

What is it exactly that you don't agree with? What statements did I make that I did not back up with scripture?

In what way is the Godhead one in unity but not in substance?

But does the Bible teach that believing in the traditional concept of the Trinity is essential to salvation? I can see where it might be concerning the concept of the Deity of Christ; but nowhere do I see condemnation concerning the Oneness concept of the Trinity. In fact, they have more of a...

I don't disagree with your statement; but I would say that the origin of the Son is the virgin birth: that the Holy Spirit became a Man (Luke 1:35, Matthew 1:20). He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh (Romans 1:3 (kjv), Isaiah 45:11).

Can you elaborate on this further?

See post #22.

The Son didn't become the Father; the Father became the Son. And He also did not cease to be the Father in doing so (John 4:23-24, John 14:7-11); but only took on the added nature of humanity.