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There is no saviour besides YHWH. Isaiah 43:11.

Of course, if the tree is not bearing fruit yet because it is not yet time, it is still a tree according to its kind. Thus salvation is through faith alone (an apple tree is still an apple tree even without its fruit being evident). It is only when it becomes the time for bearing fruit that...

Actually, that is not an error in the kjv. Jesus is human. But firstborn does not mean that He was the first being to be created; it means that He has the preeminence over all other things (Colossians 1:18).

What I was trying to say is that being saved and being adopted as sons are practically synonymous. Therefore, when we are predestinated to be adopted as sons, we are predestinated unto salvation.

The fact that you took it personally indicates that the "accusation" has some basis in reality.

Yes, He was made of the seed of David according to the flesh (Romans 1:3 (kjv)). YHWH has a Maker (Isaiah 45:11).

This thread is sure to bring in the kjv-only controversy...

Now you are being ridiculous; trying to say that God doesn't mean God in order to defend your position. I guess that when someone's position is faulty, they will go to the point of being odious in trying to defend their position; for pride will not allow them to admit defeat.

That word "firstborn" is the word that we get the English word "prototype" from in the Greek. In Jeremiah God says that Ephraim is his firstborn. And obviously Ephraim was not the first creation of God. Try again.

If you can show how someone who is adopted as a son through Jesus Christ is not saved, then you will have made your point quite nicely.

1 Thessalonians 1:4 is written to a Gentile church. According to Ephesians 1:5 we are predestinated unto adoption as children...and personally I think that this is speaking of salvation; for impaho to be adopted into the family of God is equal to salvation. In the next verse "accepted in the...

Isn't that what it does say in 2 Corinthians 5:8 (kjv)? I'm not sure what it is that you think is wrong with quoting Paul as saying that, since Paul did say that. Yet God did harden Pharaoh's heart if you do read the story. It appears to me that you are suggesting that we not accept the...

You are taking that verse out of the context of the whole of scripture, which plainly teaches that Jesus died for our sins (1 Corinthians 15:1-4, John 3:16).

Right, there is no real loophole in John 10:27-30 because Jeremiah 32:38-40 addresses it and deals with it. The loophole in question being that while you cannot be plucked out of Jesus' hand, you could leave His hand of your own accord...Jeremiah 32:38-40 addresses this and shows that the fear...

It makes me think that a duck is going to hand me some money...:D I have no idea what it stands for and would love it if you would educate us.

Yes; if you read the book of Acts you will find that every instance in which they baptized someone it was in the name of the Lord Jesus. So yes; Jesus is the Trinity: in Him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily (Colossians 2:9).

Jeremiah 32:38-40 addresses the loophole in John 10:27-30 that a person can walk away from God and thus of his own accord leave the hand of the Lord, while he cannot be plucked from God's hand he could leave it of his own accord. I believe the passage referenced tells us that the fear of the...

Really? how does your pov differ from that of Arius?

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