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No I just hate it when people lie I did not say that. So stop being a liar

That's not what I said. Enough of your lies.

I did. The justice system for them back then, 4,000 years ago, was way different to the justice system now

@Wrangler @Button I see a difference in what you guys are arguing. Wrangler is only comparing the cost of a bullet to the cost of life in prison. Button is comparing the overall cost of the capital punishment procedure vs the overall all cost of the life in prison procedure I hope that...

There is nothing in that gospel that makes it gnostic. It's just an account of Jesus's childhood. Nothing more If we take Luke's account to be true than Thomas's account, written in the 2nd century AD, of 12yo Jesus teaching in the temple is also true. So considering that story is true than...

You guys can argue amongst yourselves about it. I'm apathetic about it. I don't care. It doesn't bother me.

I'll just stay out it

Ye that doesn't mean it's all false. I think John was written 80 or 90 after the death of Christ

How do you know for sure?

@Wrangler Here is a google breakdown of why capital punishment costs so much There is another source I used in my first post of this thread that uses info from American states. And another source below explains it in more detail. The death penalty information center Costs | Death Penalty...

That's not what i read. Details and source on my first post of this thread, page 1

Actually studies show that the deterrence isn't a factor. I read that 9 out top 10 states in homicides in America had the death penalty. Details on my first post of this thread, page 1

I think people on death row are in isolation compared to general population where there are fewer guards per inmate. I read that in California holding prisoners on death row costs 90k more than in general population. Maybe thats why. The article also said it costs almost 300k to execute someone...

Have you ever wondered what Jesus was like as a child? I have. There are books and gospels that didn't make it into the bible. One of them is called the "infancy gospel of Thomas" which tells stories of Jesus from the ages of 5 to 12. The child Jesus brings clay birds to life, heals people...

Sure you can defend yourself from invasion and attack but I often see Israel doing the attacking without provocation, committing acts of terror themselves. That's why I'm apathetic towards the wars in the middle east. Their as bad as each other in my opinion and I don't have much care for it

I believe we can defend ourselves from attacks but I see Israel often doing the attacking without provocation

Oh your so lucky. If it was up to me I wouldn't vote either but they give me a fine if I don't. Regarding the footy everyone dislikes Collingwood lol. I go for the Hawks. Do you have a favourite team? I don't like to put people on the ignore list. I prefer to either reach an agreement or just...

Yo be honest I'm tired of debating her with her outrageous assumptions. I'm ready to just say she has her opinion and I have mine and leave it at that. Election this week in SA. I just did my vote early. I'm sick of Labour and Liberal and I voted One Nation. Iv been voting for them for a few...

You have your opinion and I have mine. Neither of us is changing the opinion of the other. We must agree to disagree. You say that Mary didn't love Joseph but Scripture tells us that Jesus had siblings. You have to twist that to suit your own narrative which is highly unlikely. There are other...

Well, they certainly need to be attacked and invaded because of this :rolleyes: