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  1. rebuilder 454

    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    At the midpoint is the jewish rapture of rev 14:14. And the AOD. The church is raptured pretrib. ...as Jesus taught.
  2. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    All I can do is present the facts vs what you read from translators. Again....Read this SLOWLY. 646 apostasía (from 868 /aphístēmi, "leave, depart," which is derived from 575 /apó, "away from" and 2476 /histémi, "stand") – properly, departure (implying desertion); apostasy – literally, "a...
  3. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    I misspelled it for you to have something to do. Mospelled it so you could divert from what is said. Look at it as an opportunity. Read this SLOWLY. 646 apostasía (from 868 /aphístēmi, "leave, depart," which is derived from 575 /apó, "away from" and 2476 /histémi, "stand") – properly...
  4. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    I proved your deal is baloney. It is your only passage. ...and it is twisted throughly by your teachers as i have easily demonstrated. You should test fit before wasting time and energy on what your teachers are making a fool of. Once the Bible debunks your doctrine, it is time to walk away...
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    WATCH!

    We all see the verses Nothing new. You are believing that the ones taken, are taken to judgement huh? By Using a verse that does not say that. That deal is impossible. 1) you erroneously need HALF the world saved, and half wicked. 2) you need a saved , on fire believer, to be in a bed with a...
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    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    You are ignorant. The literal translation from the Greek ....cue drum roll.... is, "DEPARTURE" Literally " from standing". The, "from the faith" is added. "Departure from the faith". ALL IT SAYS IS "DEPARTURE." So stop accusing others of your ill informed mess, when you do not know what you...
  7. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    I am not forbidden to read any part of the bible. Are you? Mat 24 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken...
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    Who goes back with Jesus in the pre-tribulation rapture?

    Postrib rapture has always placed the setting as a horrible time. They suggest they are very hearty people and much stronger than pretribs because they, in their minds, see themselves running from cave to cave to escape death. Jesus, on the other hand, places the rapture in normal life, and...
  9. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    I looked up the Geneva and tindale bibles. Both use departure. As does the Greek. Are they bunk?
  10. rebuilder 454

    Only one rapture of all the saints, and only one second coming of Christ

    The departure myth was in the 1599 Geneva Bible. 2 these 2 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: [g]for that day shall not come, except there come a departing first, and that [h]that man of sin be disclosed, even the son of perdition.
  11. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    I may want to borrow that from you. It is truly cutting their deal to shreads. Hilarious. Good one.
  12. rebuilder 454

    where in the letters did they literally write Jesus is the Father?

    The subject was God. No "she" involved. Not sure what point you are making in "she"
  13. rebuilder 454

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    You are asking me TO MAKE YOUR ARGUMENT. YOU make your case. I can not make your case for you. Show me ANY related context. You are trying to MAKE A CASE of "one coming" and using TWO SEPARATE EVENTS OF TWO SEPARATE TIME FRAMES ONE BEFORE THE FLOOD ONE AFTER THE FLOOD. YOU SHOW ME HOW THEY ARE...
  14. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    Pretend they are. Pretend somebody is taken away. Pretend nobody is. Pretend you are making sense.
  15. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    My answer earlier: ".. half the church raptured and half left behind" (The only "LEFT BEHIND" in the ENTIRE CHAPTER) NOW TAKE THAT AND PLAY YOUR LITTLE GAMES. When Jesus SENDS ANGELS IN YOUR POSTED VERSES (IN A POSTRIB SETTING), NOBODY IN HEAVEN IS LEFT BEHIND. ....now play your games with...
  16. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    Playing games huh ? Either talk straight, or at least admit the facts. "Teach" me what is being said. Your list of obtuse responses are juvenile Flat out lame. You guys do this over and over. I am serious. You are in here playing little games..
  17. rebuilder 454

    WATCH!

    Since you insist that this ; 30 And then shall appear the sign of the Son of man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a...