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I will try. Needle in a haystack. Maybe when I have 20 minutes to burn.

I am 1000% scripture based. Show me one place I am wrong. I have over 13 passages that say exactly what they say. take anything. anything. and show me where i am wrong. I love honest debate. Dave and si are in no way honest.

Amen to that. Why do postribbers not heed scripture? It is bizarre.

Passages have to be reconciled. I am presenting 4 cases where Jesus declared a pretrib rapture. 3 cases where there are separate comings ( 3 comings) With out investigation there is limited revelation, and error is incubated and accepted.

Not yet. But soon. The stage is set. Great deception though is here, as I am seeing so many willing to skew passages. Sadly

You changed it. From "gathered in heaven by angels" To ..."i come for my elect." You skewed the words of Jesus for your doctrine. Sad

You line up with vague nonsense personal mess. Got it. It does suit you and him though since neither of you can honestly debate.

Lol You deliberately misquoted that. you really hate what it says. It actually ofends you. 31 And he shall send his angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall gather together his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other.. Your reconstructed skewed version is...

The bride is raptured pretrib. Mat 24 and 25. Clear and unmistakable. Way too much detail to honestly cast it down. Jesus said it in those 2 passages. Then Jesus DIRECTLY DECLARES it. TWICE Rev 3 10 Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of...

No wrath ?

No you don't. The only sketchy info you have concerning the pretrib rapture doctrine, is whatever we have told you. None of it sticks, because those verses are cast down by you. You have no clue about the pretrib rapture doctrine. The thought of it offends you. In fact every single postribber...

Jesus himself placed the rapture pretrib 4 different places. Stop acting like he didn't. You are REASONING yourself into a lie. Fire your teachers and listen to Jesus.

You just posted a verse in matt. That after the trib, algels gather in heaven. Mat 24 29 Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken: 30 And...

If you don't know the video talking points, why ask me to waste my time. I already know ALL YOUR TALKING POINTS. You do not know the pretrib rapture doctrine. That puts you at a disadvantage. ...and is why you reply in vague talking points. .....and some video

Note the postribber non bible debate skills. Emogies and vague indirect talking points.

Just tell me the misguided "truth" of your time wasting video. I already know every one of your doctrine workbook talking points. You won't address anything specific.

List the components of mat 24's setting "before the flood" rapture. One taken/one left. The bible says what it says. I report it. Then you dodge it. You then say I am vague pharisee and without merit....oh the irony. Telling you what Jesus said is like telling it to a telephone pole. Get honest...

I would hate to be you. Changing the bible right in Jesus's face. List the setting components by Jesus , then tell him he got it wrong.

Lol. He listed the setting components. You cast all that down. That is why you skate around it. What a joke

Jesus gave the setting. Not me. Ask him to believe the changes YOU MADE.