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  1. Trekson

    The trouble with religion

    I think equating the Holy Spirit, with God's "seed" is at best, stretching things way out of proportion and at worst, pretty close to blasphemy. Now you're approaching crazy town. Equating 'one spirit" as being the same as a husband/wife relationship, when it comes to the unity we are...
  2. Trekson

    Being About Our Father's Business

    I am angry and sick and tired of empty, meaningless church services. Let me shock everyone with this statement. I am using caps for emphasis: THE PURPOSE OF THE CHURCH IS NOT TO WORSHIP GOD WITH LIP SERVICE BUT WITH ACTION! It is NOT to sing a few songs, listen to a message and go home. Yes...
  3. Trekson

    Who is the Babylon of Revelation? (part 1)

    Not impossible but if you understand Rev. 18, the whole world would have to have a major geological shift for that to occur. Israel was prophesied to return, Babylon was not.
  4. Trekson

    Who is the Babylon of Revelation? (part 1)

    Whatever this is (which I believe to be the USA) is a replacement for Babylon. The Babylon of old already saw it's destruction a long time ago.
  5. Trekson

    Who is the Babylon of Revelation? (part 1)

    I think the description given in Rev. 18 as well as Jer. 50 &51 clearly describes the US. Based on that description what alternative do you offer because geographically and politically literal Babylon just doesn't fit?
  6. Trekson

    The Body of Christ vs. The Bride of Christ (pt. 1)

    Oh, well, imo, I think he's wrong. It is God's own unique creation. Just??
  7. Trekson

    The Body of Christ vs. The Bride of Christ (pt. 1)

    Where do you see that in scripture? As you know I believe they were in the garden a much longer time than young-earthers think. The bible only says they were forbidden to eat of it after the fall, not before.
  8. Trekson

    Rev. 16:15 (part 1)

    I can have them flow w/o forcing round ideas into square prophecies.
  9. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    I don't think it's a matter of admission or revelation, it's simply a matter of each generation, as a matter of expectancy, views prophecy through the only lens they have available and that is what is happening in the world around them. Certainly not everything they wrote can be considered...
  10. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    I think you're proving my point here. You are the one demanding it was fulfilled in 70ad while I am the one saying that it doesn't matter WHEN they are all accomplished even if it's 2000+ years later, just that all things need to be accomplished for the turkey dinner to be done. If you were...
  11. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    I believe if I did prove it you wouldn't admit it anyway, btw, I don't believe in a secret rapture, I do believe calling the last seven year the "trib period" is inaccurate and while the 7 yr. covenant could be between the Arabs and the Jews, I haven't made that claim, so please stop insinuating...
  12. Trekson

    Rev. 16:15 (part 1)

    This is where we disagree the most as I believe Rev. is mostly in chronological order with pauses to offer more detail to events or characters off and on. The events don't have to be "made to fit", they blend and flow quite smoothly.
  13. Trekson

    The Reality of the Millennial Kingdom

    I would say that in the greater context, your quote, "turn the other cheek" is speaking of enemies of the kingdom and not seeking vengeance or retaliation, after the fact, we are to forgive. If you're under attack by those whose sole purpose is to kill or steal from you, then Jesus was asking...
  14. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    I agree that Jesus can be considered that, however, if it was just a person Daniel had in mind, a different word would have been used. I see no reason that when the time comes it can't be both.
  15. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    That's not a true statement at all. Here are some futurist teachings from some of the early church fathers: I thought it would be interesting to share some quotes from the early church fathers to show what their thoughts of the end times were. I believe, because the various "trib" (pre, mid...
  16. Trekson

    The Reality of the Millennial Kingdom

    It depends on the circumstances, if your life is in danger for the sole reason that you or family members are Christians and you're facing martyrdom, then no, you don't fight it. Outside of that if a man doesn't do all he can to protect his family, he will be eternally an idiot. Have you not...
  17. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    Well you're right, it won't be a nation. It will be the equivalent of a high priest or a significant prophet as exampled in the OT. I'm thinking it could either be David, Elijah or someone who fits the bill among the 144,000.
  18. Trekson

    Why The Two Legs Of Daniel 2 Represent Only Western Rome

    I see your confusion, Babylon and the "beast" are not the same thing. The beast w/ 10 horns "hates" the whore. Rev. 17:16. The beast will eventually destroy, the whore (USA), Rev. 18. Read Rev. 18:11, things could change but as of this moment, the USA is the largest importer of the world's goods.
  19. Trekson

    Did The Bible Or The Papacy Transfer The Sabbath Rest To Sunday?

    You do know that Jesus broke the "lawful" sabbath quite often during his ministry to show that He was "The Lord of the Sabbath" don't you? He did this to show that many things in life are more important than hanging onto a law that had become burdensome by adding requirements for something God...
  20. Trekson

    Did The Bible Or The Papacy Transfer The Sabbath Rest To Sunday?

    Wrong. no mention of the first day of the week. Isn't this discussion kind of moot considering the liberty we have in Christ. Col. 2:16-17 - "Let no man therefore judge you in meat, or in drink, or in respect of an holyday, or of the new moon, or of the sabbath days:17 Which are a shadow of...