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  1. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Really? Acts one Rev 14 Mat 24 Mat 25 The 7 letters of rev The last supper dialogue 1 thes 4 The escape verse by Jesus. You say those verses are fantasy?
  2. rebuilder 454

    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    The "back and forth", and challenges are nice. Debating concept vs concept. The going personal, of some, is getting too tedious. Like running into a spider web is a requirement to engage then. I prefer Intelligent back and forth.
  3. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    So your position is a rapture at the GWTJ After the mil?
  4. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Rev 14: 14 has Jesus returning to harvest Jews with no sudden destruction. Zero
  5. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Oh..so you spiritually explain away what you decide? Who is left? The spirits that aren't really there but are told to "get ready to stay"
  6. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    What part of me reading " Before the flood" causes you deflection? What does amil do with a gathering before the flood?
  7. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Oh wait.. Are you amil?
  8. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Nope Jesus said preflood gathering. You reframed it to after the mil. According to Jesus: 41 Two women shall be grinding at the mill; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 42 Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come. When you turn the "before the flood gathering"...
  9. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Question. Has anyone ever seen a postribber quote Luke 3, Where Jesus says that the righteous are gethered first? I just shake my head because. It has nothing to do with the rapture whatsoever, because in every single case, It's talking about tares being burned in the lake of fire. The GWTJ
  10. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    The wicked are burned at the GWTJ. After the mil. Jesus said the harvest is "THE END OF THE WORLD" How can Posttrib rapture twist 20 dynamics to cling to the "one taken is wicked"? I will stick to the bible.
  11. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Luke 3 17 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and will gather the wheat into his garner; but the chaff he will burn with fire unquenchable. Jesus said the wheat gathered first. What does it prove? It proves Jesus threw the "ones taken are always wicked first:"...
  12. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    If you mentally unpack it then every trumpet is exactly the same. Are there eagles at Armageddon...yes Are the ones taken before the flood wicked.? Some torture 6 dynamics to make Jesus telling the ones raptured, "be ready for eagles to eat your dead bodies."
  13. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    You just pointed out they were harvested together. THEN SEPARATED Your example is AFTER THE MIL. AT THE GWTJ. SO far you are unable to make a case for the wicked gathered first.
  14. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Where I'd the " half taken is wicked earth's population" get it's beginning? It HAS to be rooted in the notion of Jesus proverb of eagles and corpses. Nothing in there, save the wicked people destroyed by the flood, indicates those taken one are half earth's wicked population. Half earth's...
  15. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Look closely at Mat 24, and ask yourself if Jesus is telling half of earth's population (The theory of supposedly " wicked taken" in a wicked rapture),to watch and be ready for the LOF. 40 Then shall two be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. 41 Two women shall be grinding...
  16. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    No he did not.
  17. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    There are several points of interest that also make the wicked taken troublesome. Because we have 2 men in a bed, one is taken the other is left. ( according to Jesus) So, if I'm gonna say in the group that half is taken, we have an Antichrist satan worshiper in bed , (A theorized wicked man)...
  18. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Another Dynamic of that preflood gathering would be to look up the word taken in the Greek and then look up the word left in the Greek. It 100 percent supports taken to a good place and left or abandoned, which would be bad.
  19. rebuilder 454

    IS THE RAPTURE BEFORE THE TRIBULATION?

    Who are the ones taken.? Exactly who? Half of Earth population taken pre flood to what location? Remember , I debunked the theory that the wicked are ALWAYS taken first. Jesus Said first gather the wheat and put it in my barn, but the tares gather them and burn them in the fire. The one taken...
  20. rebuilder 454

    Hidden in plain sight: Why I believe this about the Revelation

    I had to put him/her on ignore. I am not here to converse with silly people. I found myself shaking my head at every sentence