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ShepherdSword, that is a good point. This does make it seem like Jesus, emptied of divine power, had to depend on the Holy Spirit to perform supernatural deeds. Just like we do.

This is mysterious and not easy to understand. We know that Jesus on earth was God manifested in the flesh. God is omniscient. But Jesus grew in wisdom and stature. Many scholars say Jesus, the Word made flesh, did have to study the scriptures, the whole Old Testament was not automatically in...

You may be correct, but I cannot find any scripture that says every time Jesus did something supernatural, He was not using His own divine power, but was operating in the power of the Holy Spirit. I would expect scripture to say “then by the power of the Holy Spirit, Jesus walked on the water”...

Your interpretation of the mark of the beast is nonsensical. It is typical of people who want to go along with having a computer chip implant or RFID tattoo, so they can conduct financial transactions, and not worry about being cast into the lake of fire. How would a characteristic or devotion...

First you say the fire must be literal. Then you say you don’t think the fire is literal.

I think it is very dangerous and unwise to try to convince people that you can take the mark of the beast, so long as you do not also worship the beast. By trying to make this claim, based on a dubious perceived technicality, that does not support this idea, it is like someone wants to be able...

What scripture says God cannot kill the soul? “Destroy both soul and body in hell” does not negate eternal conscious torment. God can do anything. If He wanted to kill a soul, nothing could stop Him. But He prefers to let every soul remain alive, either in heaven or hell. The soul in Hell is...

Satan and his demons cannot die, not just saved people. The worm never dying points to sinners not dying for eternity. Second death means dying to the presence of God. Adam experienced this kind of death the day he ate forbidden fruit. Doubtless, remorse of conscience and keen self-reflection...

What is accomplished by literal fire? Only physical pain. But if the fire represents the flames of a guilty conscience tormenting a person, it means the sins committed were not transient, but were designing an eternal environment of mind-boggling regret and remorse. This would be a mental...

I have wondered if the eternal torment is actually the conscience accusing the sinner, filling it with regrets and remorse, with the realization that nothing can be done to make amends. If the sinner suppressed his conscience, or it was seared, in hell, the conscience is suddenly re-activated...

What scripture says the mark of the beast can be repented of?

Did you read the various translations of Rev. 14:11 that I gave you? They all debunk your theory, with… Who worships the beast OR takes the mark. Who worship the beast AND THOSE who take the mark.

Revelation 14:11 NIV And the smoke of their torment will rise for ever and ever. There will be no rest day or night for those who worship the beast and its image, or for anyone who receives the mark of its name. Berean Standard Bible And the smoke of their torment rises forever and ever. Day...

You want to avoid the lake of fire? Do not worship the beast who is the enemy of God. Do not take the mark of the beast which identifies you as aligned with the beast, the enemy of God. “Worships and receives” sounds like when you worship the beast, the mark is put on you right then. All...

Who says taking the mark will prevent all your friends and family from being executed? You should not worship the beast. You should not take his mark. Do either, or both, and go into the lake of fire. Stop trying to find a way to deceive the beast.

No, it is taking about 2 categories of people, those who worship beast and those who take the mark of the beast.

Worshiping the beast and his image means you do not worship God, you worship the enemy of God. Taking the mark is symbolic of worshiping the beast.

You should have kept reading past v. 9 in Rev. 14. Revelation 14 9 And the third angel followed them, saying with a loud voice, If any man worship the beast and his image, and receive his mark in his forehead, or in his hand, 10 The same shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God, which is...

I meant to explain that there other marks that Jews and Romans would have known about. The point was that the marks were physical, not metaphorical.

Nothing I wrote has the slightest preternatural concept. The technology for the mark of the beast is here and the MOTB could be imposed upon humanity very soon.