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But the kingdom of God is also like leaven. Spreading a bit of truth here and there can cause the Holy Spirit to convict people of their need for the truth. So it all depends on where you are speaking from. I am calling people to holiness AND righteousness. Most evangelicals have neither. We...

All we see here with a more liberal viewpoint is just a radical counterweight to a radical exclusive and hytpocritical view held by fundamentalists. So it's just one extreme to the other. 1. To the pure all things are pure. The filthy attribute filthiness to others. 2. Jesus saves more than...

I agree. Jesus was perfect and yet he walked among the filthy. So holiness came to us. But to abide in Christ means we go to Him...and filthiness can't enter a holy place. So there is a BIG difference between Jesus coming to us and us going to be where He is. But you are on to something...

Exactly. That's the training of a potential saint. Luke 16 and the parable of the unjust steward shows a potential saint that is NOT cut out for holiness. So he finds a place among the righteous...which God approves of. That's part of righteousness training. God loves righteousness...and He...

I put myself under everyone else. I'm trying to pull people down off their prideful high horses so that they stop insulting the spirit of grace. And these prideful ones just get angry and hurl abuse at me for my trouble. The flesh acts very badly...as it is written. As for your very skewed...

Righteousness is about what we do. Holiness is about God and His presence. Can we do what is right without God's presence? Of course. That's why we have the law and so many examples of people who do right. An example is the "good" Samaritan. Was he holy? Of course not. Did he obey God (even...

Better than that. Speaking as the oracle of God.

When people seek to destroy the inclusive nature of God's mercy on the poor and meek...they cut off their own mercy from God. The extreme foolishness we see here is like a man sitting on a branch who is sawing off the branch he is sitting on. I'm seeing this and calling to the person doing this...

AHA! That's right...no man comes to the Father but by Jesus. But it does NOT say that no one can inherit life that doesn't know the Father. No one here knows the Father. So you all condemn yourselves. Without the mercy of God you are all lost. Yet you impugn God's mercy on the poor, the meek the...

That's a lie. You don't believe any of Jesus' teachings. What does Jesus say about inheriting life? What must we do to inherit life according to Jesus? I expect you to lie... ONLY? Which is better? To obey Jesus' teachings as I do....OR... to put Him on a cross for your sins? The unbelief...

God has His own criteria for salvation apart from what religious wannabes say. It's amazing that people would rather throw Jesus under the bus than be impeded in the headlong rush to claim justification from Him. But the Lord is NOT justifying them. The justification they claim is from themselves.

And if you knew Jesus and the bible you would agree with me. God has arranged it this way. All who know the truth will be seen as false...just as He was.

You parrot words without understanding. Believe on Jesus for what? Why are people born again? You don't know God's purpose...just your churchy ideas. The opposite is true. If you let go of the "another gospel" that Paul condemns then you could hear me. But you would have to be born from heaven...

Agreed. But the mules need more than a gentle prod. Have you ever worked with a mule? And Paul exhorts Timothy to teach, reprove and rebuke with all authority. The problem with the unwise is that they don't appreciate the lengths that minsters of the gospel go for them. :pray:

OK. But you have never been discipled. You know what is not right...sort of....but you lack any depth of understanding God's ways. God would rather save a humble poor man that doesn't know Him to a born again arrogant name and claimer. If you knew that then you would spot the pretenders...

False teaching. For those who read the bible the rich man asks Jesus ....WHICH commandments are required to inherit life. Jesus responds by stating 5 of the righteousness commandments leaving out the 10th which is to not covet. So then the minimum standard for salvation is to DO righteousness...

And that is for the CHURCH. His sheep hear His voice. Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, the bible warns men...and so do I. :) :pray:

I'm AMAZED at the bible ignorance of those who listen to pulpiteers. A rich young man came up to Jesus and asked...What must I do to inherit eternal life??? Jesus answered Obey the commandments. And people here would condemn Jesus as a false teacher for saying that. I am in the BEST company...

Sure. But your reliance on evangelical dogmatism proves that you have no eternal source yourself. Someone who has been with the Lord has the testimony of Jesus...not some recommended teaching that you force others to agree with. Besides, God does not do cookie cutter advancement in the kingdom...

I meet arrogance here with a rebuke. So if I rebuke you...you are being arrogant. I am a very reasonable man. My goal is to save souls. But those filthy ones that walk over my threads dirtying the truth with their religious opinions that mock the truth...I don't abide. There are seekers who...