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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    SMH. poppycock. Lies..pure lies. Multiple verses make up the ptretrib doctrine. So everytime you lie, your assignment is to stand in front of s mirror and tell yourself; "I lie about pretribbers and I have done so,so often I now can not tell the truth" Please stop lying. Admit the truth. We...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    But note the civil back and forth. The thoughtful discussion. So yes, without the amil nastiness and zero thoughtful discussion...it is totally out of place.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Woah...exactly backwards! Heb 11 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. The thief on the cross had zero understanding about Jesus telling him he would be in Paradise...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Double post
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Oh the irony! A person that is confoosed about salvation and who Jesus is. You need a ton of instruction. Lol.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    I don't understand everything concerning God's word. Neither did Abraham. Or the apostles. Nobody did or does. That is where faith is invoked. Or just plain obedience and "echoing" what the word of God says back to Him. If you disagree with the Bible, that is your choice, and mental...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You are demonstrating why theologians can not unpack the deity of Jesus.. You also demonstrate that rejecting that deity, YOU MUST MODIFY THE BIBLE. That is what you are demonstrating It is somewhat understood. Suppose a man let's his son die in place of a mass murderer.( As illustrated in the...
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    I am sorry you have such a misunderstanding of who Jesus is. Why do you attempt to correct someone when you have such a lack understanding?
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    By Jesus being God,( equal to the Father, but not the Father), His being is way past a "ontology" with the Father. If you play it from the " backside", then another picture emerges. What if He was not God. What changes. 1) the cross is made null and void. 2) we would not have a kinsman redeemer...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Ontology = Logic,outlook,reason,ideas.? ( I had to look it up) If that is what you mean, then it is true, however, a non deity could have those qualities, should he be in one mind and unity with God. By Jesus being God,( equal to the Father, but not the Father), His being is way past a...
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Father calls him God. The Father commands angels to worship Him. Both found in Hebrews ch 1. Done deal. The Father is the alpha and omega Jesus is the alpha and omega We worship Jesus. Correctly so
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Yes. It says no more sun or moon. Those are the "time keepers". There will still be " moment by moment" Which designates past present and future, but without the current " timekeepers"
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    You misrepresented God's word Ironically. By doing what you did, that same Greek word is used for the Father Jehovah You are calling Jehovah "a god" Again using philosophy to qualify what you are asserting
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Show me the doctrine using scripture. It is vivid that we are 3 part, and the spirit is eternal It is you invoking philosophy as a qualifier
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Not concerning doctrine. It reads very well.
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    A Question for Jehovah's Witnesses

    Only innocent blood is the remedy for sin. No watchtowers are saved.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    The Greek is the Greek Again, the KJV is almost word for word the Greek text.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    That is not Bible based. Far, far from it
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    In Hebrews Jehovah the father says of Jesus, "thy throne o God is forever and ever." What do you do with that.? I use the texts receptus Greek interlinear. Far superior to the men of history you are basing your belief in.
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    The absurdity of Pretrib logic

    Sad you can not tell the truth.