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What is the difference? Paul, Peter etc were killed for their steadfast faith, just like many have/will in future tribulations. The Thessalonians in Paul's day were encouraged to be found worthy and given relief through the Lords return when he appears in a flame of fire dealing out complete...

The Lord first has to come and then only the worthy stand before him after much tribulation. 2Thess 1 reposted. 4 Therefore, we speak of you with pride among the churches of God for your steadfastness [your unflinching endurance, and patience] and your firm faith in the midst of all the...

You miss the fact that the subject is still about his promised coming. Lets back up even more..., 24 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and will be led captive into all nations; and Jerusalem will be trampled underfoot by the Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled...

Lol You are twisting the narrative to say we escape before the events spoken of in the narrative occur. Lets highlight those events...., Lk 21 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 34 “But be on guard, so that your hearts are not weighed down and depressed with...

V 28- is about the future, Never said otherwise lol. Do you agree v24 is not about our future??

Nothing future about v25. The time spoken of "now is" 25 I assure you and most solemnly say to you, a time is coming and is [here] now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear it will live.

As I said in my previous post, your passage did not include v24. 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually begins—the...

Philippians 3 20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even to subject everything to Himself, will [not only] transform [but completely...

You failed to quote v 24, which is what I was addressing. The time "now is" for that passing from death to life, which obviously refers to a spiritual fulfillment,...... as a physical body's transference from death to life was not apparent then...... until the future hour in v28 that includes...

Why are you avoiding what I said. The time that "now is" refers to a reality well before a physical bodily resurrection takes place, clearly explained in v 24 and 25. V26 begins.., 26 For just as the Father has life in Himself [and is self-existent], even so He has given to the Son to have...

We already have the power to reconcile the world to Jesus through the power of the Holy Spirit. What more do you think we need to finally reach these people? Not that your future millennium states we will, as billions are still in rebellion a thousand years after he comes to save but a few.

No it is not. This is what it is..., 25 I assure you and most solemnly say to you, a time is coming and is [here] now, when the dead will hear the voice of the Son of God, and those who hear it will live. Bodily resurrection is clearly not in view here.

We know John had the Holy Spirit and he didn't see a difference. John 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My message], and believes and trusts in Him who sent Me, has (possesses now) eternal life [that is, eternal life actually...

I agree. There is however a passing from death to life as we are born again of the Spirit. God said to Adam the day you eat of the forbidden fruit you shall surely die. He didn't die physically that day but Spiritually. So we are born AGAIN when the Lord breathes his life into us a second time...

John is consistent in his teaching in Jn 5 and rev 20. In both passages he speaks of passing from death to life that gives us a blessed hope of not coming into Judgment through faith. Jn 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the person who hears My word [the one who heeds My...

dad replied, Why listen to you? Jesus told us when that is...., lk 21 33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away. 34 “But be on guard, so that your hearts are not weighed down and depressed with the giddiness of debauchery and the nausea of self-indulgence and the...

Only those who believe Jesus partake spiritually. They are born again of the Spirit and have already passed from death to life. Jesus got the victory over death for us. We are more than conquerers then, thanks to Jesus resurrection. Jn 5 24 “I assure you and most solemnly say to you, the...

Are you for real? Matthew 24:35 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. Mark 13:31 Heaven and earth [as now known] will pass away, but My words will not pass away. Luke 21:33 Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away...

o_O The Unshaken Kingdom 25 See to it that you do not refuse [to listen to] Him who is speaking [to you now]. For if those [sons of Israel] did not escape when they refused [to listen to] him who warned them on earth [revealing God’s will], how much less will we escape if we turn our backs on...

Not only them, but all who are without Jesus. Jesus comes in a flame of fire at Gods righteous judgment, 2Thess 1 5 This is a positive proof of the righteous judgment of God [a sign of His fair verdict], so that you will be considered worthy of His kingdom, for which indeed you are suffering. 6...