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Hi William, The two witnesses will be resurrected and called up to heaven, as the great tribulation just begins. The great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation (AOD statute image of the beast person is set up on the temple mount. See my chart below...

What do you mean by "in deception by the Antichrist" ? What do you mean by "gathered to Satan's host" ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 36 Two men shall be in the field; the one shall be taken, and the other left. taken to some place...

No, I am asking how can the Antichrist execute a fake rapture of actual Christians ? There is nothing in the bible that speaks about a fake rapture event.

@William Barton Jesus sickle in hand in Revelation 14:14 will be the sign of the Son of man in heaven in Matthew 24:30a.

Hi William, I don't think those verses are referring to the rapture but to the judgement on the wicked at Jesus's return. If you look at verses 17-20, an angel is also given a sickle. Now look at verse 20... 19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the...

You are not understanding what the first resurrection of Revelation 20:4 is referring to. It is referring to the first resurrection relative to the 1000 year millennium. It only applies to the martyred great tribulation saints - no else Here is the verse. Do you see anyone else in...

What ? The man of sin will be revealed by the 2Thessalonians2:4 act. You did not include that verse in your quote for some reason. The resurrection/rapture will take place before then. What ? My chart shows the sixth seal event. Right after "the tribulation of those days" Matthew...

The first resurrection in Revelation 20 is not the resurrection/rapture event. No-one is said to be raptured (the living in Christ changed, caught up to meet Jesus in the air) in those verses. The first resurrection in Revelation 20, that of the martyred great tribulation saints will take...

My resurrection/rapture event timing view is at any time before the Antichrist commits the 2Thessalonians2:4 act. Yes, you are correct that the dead in Christ rise first. But what you are not understanding is Jesus will circle the earth resurrecting the dead in Christ, rapturing the living in...

If they fall away - they are no longer a Christian. How can the rapture, the sudden disappearance of Christians, be faked ?

You don't understand what Luke 17:33-37 is talking about. It is talking about the day when abomination of desolation is set-up on the temple mount. In Matthew 24:15-21, Jesus said that when them in Judaea see the a.o.d on the temple mount, they should flee to the mountains right away for...

@WitnessX If the resurrection/rapture event did take place pretribulation (a misnomer for pre-70th week) do you think you would partake in it - since you are so outspoken against the pretribulation rapture timing ?

The bible does not say anything about there being a false resurrection/rapture. How can any Christian be involved in a false rapture ?

No, I did not use taken in the sense taken is used in Luke 17. I used taken as in caught up, raptured, to meet the Lord in the air.

I was not referring to nor quoting from Luke 17, in my use of the word taken. I think my question was clearly worded. Davy, what is your resurrection/rapture timing view ?

If the resurrection/rapture event did take place pretribulation (a misnomer for pre-70th week) do you think you would be taken - since you are so outspoken against the pretribulation rapture timing ?

The Jews of Judaism are looking for Elijah the prophet to anoint their King of Israel messiah. One of the actions that Elijah the prophet did in his battle with the prophets of baal was to call fire down from heaven. Now let's look at what the false prophet does in Revelation 13: Revelation...

They are not spiritual beings, but men. The little horn person goes through 5 stages (highlighted on the chart in blue) on his path to his detruction. One of the stages is that of being the Antichrist.

Well, you are right about an action by the Antichrist beginning the 7 years. But it will not be by a peace agreement, but by a speech he gives on the temple mount about God giving the land of Israel to the children of Israel as theirs forever. Moses made that required speech in...

No, the Transgression of Desolation is a sit in the temple act by the Antichrist claiming to have achieved God-hood as described in 2Thessalonians2:4. The Abomination of Desolation comes later. It will a be a statue image of the Antichrist after he has become the beast of Revelation 13. The...