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    WATCH!

    How do you know this fulfills Daniel 9?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Hieron, the word for temple found in Matthew 24, refers to the temple building. Its use is not for a spiritual temple. Thayers. ἱερόν is employed in the N. T. either explicitly of the whole temple, Matthew 12:6; Matthew 24:1; Mark 13:3; Luke 21:5; Luke 22:52; Acts 4:1; Acts 24:6; Acts 25:8; 1...
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    Can we know the day and hour of Jesus' return?

    I like to think of it this way - In general, we know that it takes around 9 months for a baby to grow in the womb and then be born. While we don’t know the exact day nor hour of the birth until it happens, we do know the general time frame, and we can know when the birth is near (birth pangs)...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    I agree. We know Christ is talking about his body because the John tells us. So @Truth7t7 where does Matthew tell us in chapter 24 that he is talking about his body?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    In John 2, how do you know that Jesus is talking about his body and not the physical temple?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    You literally said that in a previous post. You said “the old covenant woman representation cannot brought into new covenant times.” If that’s not what you meant, then just say so. That’s not what you originally said, and that’s completely different than saying ‘the old covenantal woman...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    In the masoretic text, neither grammar nor context specifically indicate that the prince of 26b is a different entity from the prince of 25. - “the people of the prince to come will destroy the city and sanctuary. “ Now, if you look to the Greek text of the theodotion LXX, the grammar does make...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    You said earlier that the old covenant woman REPRESENTATION cannot be brought into new covenant times. That statement contradicts Paul in Galatians 4. No one’s arguing this. I think your ChatGPT generated response is confused. Agreed, I already said this. He is using the real, physical city...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    This would speculative interpretation though, since the NT never actually states the 42 month reign of the beast fulfills Daniel?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    From an internal grammatical/contextual standpoint, how do you know this?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    I’m not addressing Paul’s main point about the heavenly Jerusalem. I’m addressing the contradiction you’ve made about your own position from post 132. Your two statements are contradictory. On the one hand, you argue that the earthly Jerusalem represents the covenant community “STILL”...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Agreed Agreed “Some terrible event in the Jewish war, by which the temple was desecrated”. Thayers lexicon: the expression τό βδέλυγμα τῆςἐρημώσεως the desolating abomination(others take the genitive, others; e. g. Meyer as a genitive epexegetical) in Matthew 24:15; Mark 13:14 (1 Macc...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Does scripture clearly and explicitly define the AoD? I would argue it doesn’t, hence the many disputes and different interpretations.
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    He says the women are an allegory for the covenants. He does NOT say the city is an allegory. Hagar represents mount Sinai, and it corresponds to “the present Jerusalem” - (the Jerusalem of Paul’s day 48ad). Paul is using metonymy, a common literary trope. “The present” Jerusalem, in this...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    That didn’t answer his question at all. His question was about Hagar and its corresponding Jerusalem. Galatians is believed to have been written between 48-55ad. So if Galatians written in 48ad, what is the “present day (48ad) Jerusalem, that’s in slavery, that corresponds to Hagar and mount...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    @grafted branch didn’t say the new covenant was established in 48ad. Your response is clearly a misunderstanding
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Exactly, Paul uses the story of Sarah and Hagar as a a simile for his day. Sarah and Hagar CO-EXISTED, one birthing the child according to the promise, the other according to the flesh. In the simile these women represent the covenants of God. Hagar represents the old covenant, its children in...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Where in Matthew 24 does Christ re-contextualize the disciples question about the physical to actually mean a spiritual temple?
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Your response doesn’t actually address my original argument. My point was that in Matthew 24 Jesus is answering the disciples’ question about the destruction of the physical temple, and nowhere in the discourse does He explicitly re-contextualize the temple to mean His body or a spiritual...
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    Daniel 9:25 - the messiah the prince

    Shouldn’t we begin by examining the New Testament passages that explicitly reference Daniel? In Matthew 24:1–2, Jesus foretells the destruction of the physical temple. In response, the disciples ask, in part, “When will these things be?” (Matthew 24:3). Jesus then begins answering their...