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This is exactly what you are doing Robert. If you were to use the rest of scripture, you would know that people are thrown into the everlasting fire that was prepared for the devil and his angels at the GWT. Nobody is punished in this way without the book of life opened first. The NHNE then come...

Would a literal 144,000 seem a little suspect when the number of people saved is a number nobody can count.? Especially when the 144,000 belong to Israel, who some believe that all of them will be saved. Very suspect this literal approach, isn't it.... when they actually number the sand of the...

England v France in the quarter final :woohoo!: Winner to play Argentina in final I reckon.

Without repentance there is no atonement. Matthew 3:11 “As for me, I baptize you with water because of [your] repentance [that is, because you are willing to change your inner self—your old way of thinking, regret your sin and live a changed life], but He (the Messiah) who is coming after me is...

Of course, not the saints. Those who participate in embracing the mark/beast /antichrist are all those who from the foundation of the world do not have their names in the Book of Life. That is comprehensive of all the living and all the dead when the book of life is actually opened at the GWT...

How?, when all and everyone on the planet, not in the BOL will worship the Beast. All not written in the BOL will be destined for Judgment. Furthermore, we are only going to know this outcome of who is and isn't in the book of life, only when it is opened, Jesus reveals this at his second...

I love corroboration. Psalm 69:28 May they be blotted out of the book of life[and their lives come to an end] And may they not be recorded with the righteous (those in right standing with God). Daniel 12:1 “Now at that [end] time Michael, the great [angelic] prince who stands guard over the...

sounds like you have totally rewritten Genesis in such a way that it contradicts the rest of the scriptures where God reveals himself.

True. We have the saved and the unsaved witnessing his second coming. So, what happens to those unsaved at his coming? Rev 9 Then another angel, a third one, followed them, saying with a loud voice, “Whoever worships the beast and his image and receives the mark [of the beast] on his forehead...

I think you're a good honest guy. Yes I love reading Rev 21. I do not believe it is for Israel alone, and I do not believe the Gates remain open for unbelievers. Th NJ is our inheritance and we will go in and out and find pasture. 2Thess 1 makes clear the rejectors of Jesus at his second coming...

I understand what you are saying Matthew, but there comes a point in time when the door is shut and those outside of salvation are eternally separated. I will let scripture tell you when that happens..., 2thess 1 3 We ought always and indeed are morally obligated [as those in debt] to give...

He Conquered the first death for us and the second will not hurt those the moment they truly believe in him.

The righteous souls are shown to do that in Rev 6 and rev 20 thanks to Jesus resurrection. They are given white robes then. As for the unrighteous souls they seem to be sentenced at the GWT. Why do that if they do not exist?

Rev 6 When He (the Lamb) broke open the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slaughtered because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained [out of loyalty to Christ]. 10 They cried in a loud voice, saying, “O Lord, holy and...

We get those spiritual bodies at his second coming. Our souls are now seated in the heavenlies, and we wait for this blessed hope when he appears a second time, when our glorified body catches up and glorifies the blessing we now enjoy in a limited way.

I think he might know that the answer he gives will be very uncomfortable to a lot of us. If only he had the same conviction he has regarding other things. That only means one thing =there is Hope.

I think it is most important we all corroborate bible truths with the NT. It shouldn't be a struggle to convincingly do that.

Hey MatthewG, if Jesus had returned the redeemed would be glorified now. Philippians 3:20-21 20 But [we are different, because] our citizenship is in heaven. And from there we eagerly await [the coming of] the Savior, the Lord Jesus Christ; 21 who, by exerting that power which enables Him even...

The giants of faith past had something else in mind Robert. Heb 11 8 By faith Abraham, when he was called [by God], obeyed by going to a place which he was to receive as an inheritance; and he went, not knowing where he was going. 9 By faith he lived as a foreigner in the promised land, as in...

I am not dealing with your misrepresentation and games anymore Davy.