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  1. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    I claim that correction is only seen as being judgmental by those who still love their own rebellious ways.
  2. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Worldly people will never find the balance between Liberalism and Conservatism...unless it is forced upon them. A Christian is to be neither liberal or conservative but rather be spiritual in Christ.
  3. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    God is on a level all His own. Good catch! But you claim to have God's own righteousness for yourself...based on an introspective bible reading??? Is that from humility? Or that all bible enthusists have that level of righteousness? A clever mimicking of Paul's words doesn't equal being an...
  4. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    In a two-dimensional world you would have a point. For you it is...believer good, unbeliever bad. But that kind of reasoning comes from the knowledge of good and evil....2 dimensional. The Pharisees had the very same outlook. Good and bad. They of course identifying themselves with the good. Do...
  5. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    More than one dimension you mean?? I think you hate the idea that there are levels to both salvation AND righteousness. You make God to be a black and white dogmatic judge the way religious people are...like yourself. But God's ways are BOTH mercy and truth. So you do God a disservice by...
  6. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Another thing that most people get confused about is the exclusivity of the holiness walk in the Spirit....and the universal inclusivity of God's mercy on the poor, the humble, the meek, the lowly...etc. And this comes down to having a 2 dimensional dogmatic view of salvation and even of God...
  7. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Such as??? What you call "untruths" are deeper truths you have yet to consider. Don't judge from yourself. You still haven't understood the necessity of being crucified in the outer man...or else one can become more puffed up than ever through the experience of the second blessing. Paul spent...
  8. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    If someones says that they are a follower of Christ...fine...people can follow Christ from any number of distances. But if someone says that they abide in Christ, then they will be judged by a much harder standard. What we say is important. We will either be justified or condemned by our words...
  9. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    The "come up higher" is in the higher walk of the Spirit that Paul testifies of. When we walk at that level of consecration THEN we can experience what Paul speaks of....to be seated in heavenly places in Christ. No naming and claiming is permitted. IF we walk as Jesus walked THEN we can claim...
  10. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    How does a person with a conservative bent climb out of the ditch of iniquity? The only way to steer a balanced course that keeps on the level...on the path that leads to life...is by faith. Not religious certainty. Not dogmatic beliefs. Why faith? Faith believes that God's way is the only...
  11. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    That's not how discipleship works. Repentance comes first...or at least an open mind. Otherwise we are dealing with the part of a person that needs to go to the cross. The cross is an execution device. How can that be seen as caring for one's soul? And yet, once a person experiences the cross...
  12. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    I'm dealing with unbelief mainly. How did Jesus treat those who thought they could see but were blind? It one thing to sit in a boat and discuss things, but quite another when the boat is tipped so far over to one side that there is no place to sit.
  13. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    So then what do you judge from? What is your platform to judge people outside the faith? You don't see yourself. You are extremely judgmental. Based on what? You will say what is written in the bible. The Pharisees also judged people from the bible. Yet Jesus seemed to go a lot easier on those...
  14. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    You have not understood anything beyond a dogmatic belief up to this point. You are not going to understand anything I try explaining to you.
  15. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    As long as you see the one you are in...religious theories aside. An actual spiritual condition, not name it claim it religion. Why not come out of the ditch of iniquity? Stop judging from yourself and stop being so religiously certain. Seek God for His approval. Seek God to be crucified from...
  16. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    You only see one aspect of the church's fall. On the liberal side the church is moving towards liberalism...permissiveness, compromise and carnality. But what conservatives don't see is even worse. The Pharisees were NOT liberal, they were conservative. And just like so many modern believers...
  17. Episkopos

    SORRY! This Forum doesn't allow discussion about Jesus.

    Where do you see the joy in what Jesus had to suffer? What religion is that? Evangelicalism?
  18. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Exactly. The wildernesses walk. From there we are to seek the kingdom of God and His righteousness....not assuming and presuming that one is more advanced than one is. Otherwise what is good can become a lie as people name and claim something that they have not yet attained. If people think they...
  19. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    The full stature of Christ is a character issue. Maturity. That is the attaining. The apprehension that is of Christ is a purity issue. Holiness. Hence the way I warn people who will hiss at those who failed to warn them.
  20. Episkopos

    Making Disciples

    Think it through. Jesus said...No man comes to Me unless the Father draws Him. And this isn't speaking of the religious version of churchianity whereby people decide for themselves that they are "saved", "righteous", a little bit holy, disciples....etc