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  1. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    No, Davy. You’re doing it again. I asked: Where does Jesus say “this generation” means some other generation thousands of years later? You answered by telling me I must first understand your system of “signs,” Revelation 6, and the future Second Coming. Thats not an answer. Thats the...
  2. The Gospel of Christ

    What is the purpose of Grace?

    No, thats not what I said at all. I did not say everything in Matthew 24 and 25 already happened. In the very post you quoted, I said: “We can debate where the discourse broadens into final judgment.” So please don’t manufacture a position for me and then accuse me of “pushing aside”...
  3. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    No. Matthew 25:31–46 has not already happened, I take that as the final judgment. But notice what just happened. You moved from Matthew 24:34 - “this generation” to a later passage about final judgment and then treated the later passage as though it changes who “this generation” was. That's...
  4. The Gospel of Christ

    What is the purpose of Grace?

    Those are fair questions. But neither verse makes “this generation” disappear. Matthew 24:29–31 uses classic prophetic judgment language, darkened sun, falling stars, shaken heavens; the same kind of imagery Isaiah and Ezekiel use for the collapse of nations. So simply quoting those verses...
  5. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    To the lurkers, it's akin to this... (except with words alone, like in the Bible, you can hide the trick far more easily.) Dispensation I — The Hidden Chewbacca Covenant Leia appears to be speaking romantically to Han. The uninstructed viewer naturally assumes the scene concerns Han and Leia...
  6. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    At this point it’s like arguing with David Koresh that he isn’t Jesus Christ. The more directly you challenge the premise, the more the premise simply gets repeated back at you as proof of itself. ‘Israel is still uniquely privileged because Israel is Israel; Jesus will fight for them because He...
  7. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    It's like living in a science fiction horror movie from hell. This system has trained you to reason, defend and argue in categories Christ Himself rebuked. If your theology trains you to reason like the very people Christ rebuked for trusting ancestry, inherited status, and covenant...
  8. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    ^ This guy is basically saying, ‘Yes, they may currently reject Christ, but they are still prophetically My people Israel; God restored them nationally first, and He will regenerate them later.’ But the New Testament does not give unbelief that kind of covenant protection at all. Paul says...
  9. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Anyone with a molecule of critical thinking and common sense reading this entire thread should be absolutely terrified by the death-cult logic of antichristic, Scofield-style dispensationalism. It inverts the apostolic center of Christianity by pulling covenant identity away from Christ and back...
  10. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    To the lukewarm who might be confused, even if you were stranded alone on a desert island in the South Pacific, if you belong to Christ, Israel is still there. Not because the sand became holy. Not because you found the right coordinates. Because the covenant people are in Christ. And know...
  11. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Whether we’re in the last days is irrelevant to the question. I asked you why people who reject Christ still count as “His people,” while their geopolitical enemies automatically become “His enemies.” “Last days” doesn't answer that. The Messiah will return, and to whoever is in control of...
  12. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    So... the NT says God's chosen people are Jews & Gentiles who follow Christ. 1 Peter 2:9–10 - Christ’s people are the "chosen race, royal priesthood and holy nation." You ignore that as best you can. Jew and Gentile are made “one new man” in Christ — Ephesians 2:15 You ignore that...
  13. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Nobody is upset that “Israel” appears thousands of times in Scripture. The dispute is over what the apostles say Israel means after Christ. If you went back to the apostolic Church and told them that a secular nation-state founded nearly 1,900 years later would become the controlling...
  14. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    It doesn’t upset me. It proves the point. You just defined Jesus primarily through ethnic Israel, land, Jerusalem, and national destiny... exactly the categories I said your system keeps forcing back over Christ. Yes, Jesus is King of Israel. So the King defines Israel. The problem is not...
  15. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You just keep proving the argument again and again. You keep taking Christ and forcing Him back underneath the categories that were supposed to point TO HIM. That is inverted Christianity. The Christian order is: Moses → Christ Prophecy → Christ Promise → Christ Shadow → Christ Israel → its...
  16. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You don’t even understand the argument. Nobody said ignore the Old Testament. The argument is that CHRIST INTERPRETS THE OLD TESTAMENT FOR CHRISTIANS. Jesus and Paul quoted the Old Testament because it testified about CHRIST and was fulfilled in CHRIST. Quoting Moses does not put Moses back...
  17. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Computer, according to his writings, would Ignatius of Antioch, disciple and hearer of John the Apostle, consider teaching like Reverend Hagee’s to place Christians in any kind of spiritual danger? “Yes, unequivocally. Ignatius explicitly warned Christians NOT to Judaize and said that if...
  18. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    You just magically inserted “AND HE DID!” into Ezekiel like it was inspired text. It isn’t. Ezekiel never says “1948.” And you conveniently split the prophecy in half... the LAND is supposedly fulfilled by a twentieth-century state, while the ONE HEART and NEW SPIRIT are suddenly "on...
  19. The Gospel of Christ

    When Doctrine Corrects Christ

    Somewhere in a holler in Tennessee, 1930 the devil walked into town… “Hey Jebediah, did ya hear the news?! Jesus Christ isn’t Israel anymore!” Jebediah: “HE AIN’T WHAT?!” “That’s right! Turns out all those Christians for the last one-thousand and nine hundred years had it all wrong!”...