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  1. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    @Aunty Jane Let's look at these steps of analysis... 1. God existed before anything. 2. God came forth from Himself, as the Lord God, so that them He would create could perceive Him. Who them he would create, He would be Lord over them. 3. As the Lord God, He created everything. 4. Then...
  2. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    That Jesus is God is stated by Jesus Himself in Ezekiel 39. Things to come, 7 years after the Gog/Magog event. Ezekiel 39:21-29 is Jesus Himself speaking in text having returned to this world. The Jews (Judaism) presently don't believe Jesus is God, correct ? But let's look at that...
  3. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Thanks Jay, for providing your interpretation and understanding of those verses. I disagree with all of you view, but at least now others can evaluate your interpretation and understanding for themselves.
  4. Douggg

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Seventh trumpet > third woe. Copy and paste all the verses in the bible that have "woe to inhabiters of the earth" in the verse.
  5. Douggg

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Amil believers, put these things on the chart in order. You don't have to make a chart, just a list. 1. Antichrist commits the sit in the temple act of 2Thessalonians2:4 2. AoD image set up 3. the great tribulation 4. Jesus's second coming 5. the millennium rule of Jesus with rod of iron 6...
  6. Douggg

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    It doesn't ? In your post, you wrote...."The prophecy of Isaiah 25:8-9 will be fulfilled when Jesus returns at the sound of the last trumpet, soon after which the new heavens and new earth will be ushered in. " What do you mean by "soon after which" ? A thousand years, later (like I...
  7. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Hi Aunty Jane,, I may be misunderstanding you, but are you of the view that Jesus is not God ? If that is your view, I say we have to think back before anything existed but God. I don't think anyone can comprehend the how of God's always existence. God is so far above our ability to do...
  8. Douggg

    When Jesus returns at the last trumpet, death will be swallowed up in victory and there will then be no more death, which will fulfill Isaiah 25:8.

    Jesus will return and the 1000 year millennium rule will begin. Then, after the last rebellion, and the GWT judgmenet, there will be no more death in the new heaven and new earth and new Jerusalem.
  9. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jay, are there islands (as it says in verse 20) that disappeared in the 20th century ? Did the great hail stone event of verse 21 take place in the 20th century ? 20 And every island fled away, and the mountains were not found. 21 And there fell upon men a great hail out of heaven, every...
  10. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jay, here are biblical verses regarding the seventh vial (bowl) of God's wrath... Revelation 16: 17 And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done. 18 And there were voices, and thunders...
  11. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    One of the forum rules is not to goad. Here is an except from that rule.... No Flaming, Goading or Harassment. All members should be treated with the utmost respect and courtesy at all times following the rules of civil discourse...
  12. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Although I don't agree with the beliefs of Jehovah's Witnesses, calling them a cult is against the forum rules. Here is an excerpt from the forum rules... "Do not attack another member's character in any way. Address the post content, not the member's character, family, denominational...
  13. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jay, if you disagree with what I wrote about the sixth seal, then give your understanding of what will take place during the sixth seal and when it will take place.
  14. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jesus words are not meaningless. Jesus said tribulation of those days. Jesus's word are spirit and they are life. John 6:63 It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life. One of the forum rules is not to...
  15. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Do you think the Gog/Magog event of Ezekiel 38-39 has happened yet ?
  16. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jesus said 'tribulation of those days". Not just tribulation. Believers who hold the pre-trib view consider the entire 70th week as "the tribulation". So when they say the tribulation, they are referring to the entire 7 years of the 70th week. So don't use tribulation nor trib in your...
  17. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Ezekiel 38, the same Gog/Magog event is said in the text - latter years, later days. Ezekiel 38:8 and Ezekiel 38:16. Plus there is no mass grave site called Hamongog in Israel yet. Ezekiel 39:15. The Jews of Judaism all consider Gog/Magog still unfulfilled, as well.
  18. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    I agree. I never use that phrase. And the 7 years in Daniel 9:27 and the 7 years in Ezekiel 39:9 are not all tribulation. Much of the first half will be a false messianic age of the unsaved world saying "peace and safety". I always refer to the 7 years as the 70th week of Daniel 9:25 or...
  19. Douggg

    "what shall be the sign of thy coming"

    Jay, the verses in Revelation 6:15-17 indicate that the inhabiters of the earth will not only see Jesus (highlighted in red), but also the throne of God in heaven (highlighted in blue). Revelation 14:14 indicates that Jesus will have a sickle in His hand. So it will be obvious his...