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A literal word for word of the Hebrew translated into English: 20There is not thence any more a suckling of days, And an aged man who doth not complete his days, For the youth a hundred years old dieth, And the sinner, a hundred years old, is lightly esteemed. It does not say “no longer will...

My response is in regards to the title of OP, which states premils “must invent…...” A literal reading of revelation 20 presents two resurrections separated by 1000 years, so I disagree with the phrase “invent”, as it’s literally there. But revelation is also first century apocalyptic...

They didn’t invent it. Revelation, a highly figurative and apocalyptic book on which there is no universal agreement on how to interpret, and whose inclusion into cannon was highly debated and not widely accepted, “revealed” it.

I agree. That’s what I’ve been saying. Hebrews 12 is not relevant to this point.

I have been talking about psalm 2 this entire time. The warning of “accept correction and serve the Lord or perish”, that is found at the end of psalm 2, is directed, in part or total, at the rebellious kings from vs psalm 2:1-3. So can you explain how Hebrews 12 is relevant to psalm 2’s...

Why are you bringing Hebrews 12 into the psalm 2 discussion? I’m discussing the warning to the rebellious kings and rulers of psalm 2 Psalm 2:10-12 Now therefore understand, ye kings: be instructed, all ye that judge the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice in him with trembling. 12...

Are you saying no one outside of “only” Gods people are taught correction, repentance, and to serve the Lord? My main argument, prior to you shoehorning revelation 19 into the discussion, can be found in post 25. After you shoehorned revelation 19 into the discussion, my response can be found...

My point was that Christ, at his death, resurrection, and ascension, was given the nations as an inheritance, to shepherd with a rod of iron and to dash to pieces. This is demonstrated in revelation 2:26-27. While revelation 19 (vs 19) alludes to verses like psalm 2:1-2, which the book of...

I agree, it’s not surprising when you make up something I didn’t even say nor argue then disagree with it. Where did I argue that revelation 19 is not about the 2nd advent? Additionally, for argument sake, if I didn’t believe revelation 19 is about the 2nd advent, what does that have to do with...

Ok Great we are in agreement that revelation 19 is about Jesus’ authority over the nations and Him dashing them to pieces for not serving the Lord or accepting the nations. Are we in agreement that Jesus already has authority over the nations, to shepherd/rule with an iron rod and dash to...

The NT quotes from the LXX version of psalm 2, are you unaware of this? Where did I state revelation 19 was about Jesus correcting the nations? I already stated previously that I think the main point of revelation 19 was Jesus dashing to pieces those that would not serve the Lord or...

The Septuagint - which is what the NT quotes from. From the LXX: 9Thou shalt shepherd them with a rod of iron; thou shalt dash them in pieces as a potter’s vessel. 10 Now therefore understand, ye kings: be instructed, all ye that judge the earth. 11 Serve the Lord with fear, and rejoice in...

Sure, but the point is that they are still warned

I’m confused, You completely disagree with my view that revelation 19 is pointing to Christ dashing to pieces those who did not serve the lord nor accept correction?

The warning of shepherding with an iron rod and dashing those to pieces, is literally spelled out in the next 2 verses - serve the lord and accept correction (being shepherded with an iron rod) OR perish (dashed to peices as a potters vessel): Thou shalt shepherd them with a rod of iron; thou...

No, that’s not what I mean

I think revelation 19 follows the apocalyptic motif, and is not meant to be taken literally nor chronologically, as that is not the point of apocalyptic literature. It alludes to and combines passages like psalm 2 and Ezekiel 38/39 to display an ultra violent victory for Christ. that being...

I definitely think there is relation. Psalm 2:1-2 about the crucifixion Psalm 2:7 fulfilled in the resurrection Acts 13:33 this he has fulfilled to us their children by raising Jesus, as also it is written in the second Psalm, “‘You are my Son, today I have begotten you.’ Psalm 2:8-9...

The problem with making it broader, is vs 28 —> “They” carried out “what had been decided before hand”. “What had been decided beforehand” was the nations raging and the kings and rulers of the earth standing against God and his anointed - in other words, Christ being crucified was decided...

This is about the crucifixion. I don't think it is about the heathens "STILL raging and fighting...." Acts 4:25-28 You spoke by the Holy Spirit through the mouth of Your servant,c our father David: ‘Why do the nations rage and the peoples plot in vain? 26The kings of the earth take their...