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  1. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Religious twaddle. What a "rich" tradition. :oops: :ummm::eek:
  2. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Again, you are confusing peace with God for your own idea of peace. The chastisement of OUR PEACE was upon Him....and still grieves the Spirit. Our idea of peace destroys the truth. Crying peace, peace, when there is no peace.
  3. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Any bible expositor will say that the word aphesis is sometimes used to mean "forgiveness" because the translators twisted the meaning into popularity so long ago that it is now a part of the religious sub-culture. But learn what the words really mean. It's the same thing for the modern word...
  4. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    No. People are claiming the promises of the Promised Land are already theirs while still in the wilderness walk or worse. Anybody can name and claim bible verses. What we see is dishonesty in those who claim that the warnings of the bible are not for them. What's the difference with that and...
  5. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    An honest conversation goes like this Person A (one of your people): I believe that the cross is about forgiveness. Person B (Me)\: What do you do with all the people God forgave in the OT and those whom Jesus forgave in the NT before He died? And what about all the passages about the cross...
  6. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Actually my posts display the depth and revolutionary stand of Christ and His gospel. Few will accept it. The problem is that modern churches have watered down the truth to fill the pews with numbers...and a lot of basic unbelievers in the truth. These only believe in the lie that got them into...
  7. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Ahem. The law of God is not the law of Moses. You are confusing the law of God ....the 10 words (devarim) commandments with the temple laws of a temporal holiness. Maybe you need a new church? Does it have a steeple? Real bells? Or just that recorded thing? All scripture is there to profit...
  8. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Neither does Jesus forgive the sin of His disciples. Neither does He say Peter you are forgiven for the three times you betrayed Me. Man, you have invented a religion of forgiveness that satisfies your religious ego. Nowhere in the bible is what you say backed up. It destroys your every...
  9. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    I said our best efforts as in humanity. I can tell when an ego is involved as in the many here as they take global things personally. I never said you....it is a common thing for all humankind. Sin is a condition that all mankind faces. The solution is Christ. But how? Does Jesus just look the...
  10. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    If you knew God you would see a higher righteousness than our best efforts at fulfilling the law.
  11. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    LOL More comic relief. Hey Apak, your sense of humour never stops. :) (Rom 3:21) " But now apart from the law, a righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets- " A higher righteousness has been revealed than what we can do under the law. God's...
  12. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Reading skills aside, will you acknowledge Paul's words? We are the ones who fulfill the law through the power of Christ. Paul says this and you ignore him and then lie. You call Paul a worker of self? You are too dishonest for that. Instead I post what Paul said and then say I'm the one who...
  13. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    I can't get you to see something that is beyond your sight. But there still is one thing you can do ...even in darkness...and that is to believe. You can have faith in the God of the impossible. With men it is impossible. But you can reach out to God by faith. Maybe you can't see how all your...
  14. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    The law of Moses was a holiness set of laws that separated God's people from others. To be part of God's people at that time one had to be circumcised etc.. But the law of God from Sinai is for all flesh. It is based on righteousness. And God will judge the WORLD in righteousness (not holiness)...
  15. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    You are confusing establishing the law by faith, with...being under the power of the law. If we sin every day...then we are under the law. Sin has us in its grip. To be liberated from the power of sin and come under grace we need to go to the cross....that crucifies the part of us that has sin...
  16. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    False. The law remains...we ESTABLISH the law through faith. We fulfill the law by the power of the Spirit. Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law. Rom. 3:31 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but...
  17. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    LOL. Backward logic. There is a law and people continue to transgress it...UNLESS they walk in the power of Christ that FULFILLS the law. According to the gospel and the cross that liberates people from the power of sin....not just forgives them. The law remains....and is the standard by which...
  18. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    LOL. You are missing the point of the gospel. The point is to be quickened into new life....not an overturning of the law. :cool: The law remains...but the power to overcome as Jesus overcame is provided by Jesus...by grace through faith. You want the wages of sin to be overturned. But God...
  19. Episkopos

    Are we saved by certainty, or by faith? - the mystery of salvation

    Certainty certainly worked for the Pharisees. So we have an historical precedent to follow. :rolleyes:
  20. Episkopos

    The social gospel?

    Many resist the spiritual nature of the truth and the power that is available through the Lord over sin. They want grace to mean an amnesty for being sold under sin, a constant forgiveness, rather than the power to walk as Jesus walked. They want forgiveness without holiness. They want words...