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Please disagree as much as you want. I welcome the chance to rethink things. God does have mercy yes but the requisists for salvation are clear in scripture and it says that it is only through Christ's baptism of the Spirit that saves.

Yes I agree. I mean that when it is believed, it can come into force. Believing in His sacrifice is the faith that is needed. We can do nothing but have faith.

Where did that come from?? haha

Sorry did not mean that people do not need a director. They do, preferably, but once they are in 'the promised land' they will talk to others now and again, probably for a consensus but that weekly guidance is not needed anymore. They got to the place of direction. Yes you can find them in...

Forgot to name the other stages, so: Illumination which comes usually duriung a crisis when one has the full picture of ones sins revealed and how they have let Christ down after all He did for them. Union or the other names when one enters into the state where Adam was supposed to achieve, or...

@MostlyConfused I have started this thread as you mentioned SJOTC on @epis thread and I don't want to fill it up with my views as I disagree with him on a couple of points. That's OK as the Lord does not give His whole theology to one person. So long as the main points for salvation are there...

In A Description of the Qualifications Necessary to A Gospel Minister by Samuel Bownas 1750, (p6-7)he writes: "For no man can be righteous and wicked at one time; we must first be brought out of the bondage of corruption under spiritual Pharoh and Egypt, into the wilderness, before we can offer...

It is assumed that Cornelius was not a Christian because he was a soldier but I have read that early believers had an issue with those type for not leaving their non Christian work.

There is unity when the perfect are together and know that each one has been given various illumination of the minor points. God created man to work as a team - a perfect one.

I read that as Cornelius was converted. Just because he was a soldier does not mean he wasn't. I read somewhere that there were objections about that happening to some. They did not leave their jobs. Then he heard the full gospel calling him into theosis or ES and responded.

We bring a mind set and pressupositions to the scriptures which vastly affects interpretation, but we do not see it and insist that our understanding is the true one hence thousands of Protestant denominations. It is only when we develop another mind set that we see it. Those that convert from...

@bdavidc David, I truly understand where you are coming from, so I will try as much as I can here. I was an earnest Bible thumping evangelical for a long time and I mean 50 odd years and fully accepted the teaching, though I went from a fully fledged Cavinist for some of that time. I...

The Apostle Peter famously noted in the Bible that Paul's writings contain some things that are "hard to understand". Paul frequently addressed deep theological concepts, complex arguments, and paradoxes, which makes them prone to being misunderstood or distorted. Lizbeth has rightly said that...

Sorry I was not being clear. You are right that their walk is genuine in the way you said it. I was referring to the time when the Holy Spirit, as a continuation of His work, begins to show the person how God sees them and their good works. This is usually a profound time, when they see that...

I've been hearing these tales for a very long time, maybe 40 years, but have yet to see any proof, like a confirmation from their GP or even photos. And why aren't these so called healers to be found on paedriatric wards, working their magic on severely sick children. Why no proof put in the...

What I did after my endo system ran into trouble on keto, was to cut out all grains (I was eating a small amount - GF ones like brown rice) to calm down autoimmunity - my antibodies reduced, and use certain fruit - lower carb, instead. My weight has increased due to my thyroid problems but I...

Caution was what I intended.

The deeper spiritual interpretation can only be understood by those who are on it or have been through it. Flesh v spirit. Plus the fact that followers of Christ who were disciples of the apostles, and those coming after, backed the spiritual process calling it via Triplex. As I have said, that...

and one more source of information: https://men-elite.com/2021/10/19/when-keto-diets-backfire-and-cause-health-problems/

https://pace-cme.org/news/self-reported-keto-diet-associated-with-higher-ldl-c-and-apob-levels-and-increased-mace/2456392/ https://edition.cnn.com/2023/03/05/health/keto-low-carb-high-fat-diets-heart-disease/index.html Just a couple more. "...“After an average of 11.8 years of follow-up – and...