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I take that verse to be meaning after Daniel 7:9-12 is fulfilled and being fulfilled. Which then means verse 27 involves the millennium that follows the fulfilling of verses 9-11, and that verse 27 is then involving verse 12 and this---they had their dominion taken away: yet their lives were...

I was preparing to hit the 'Like' button until I saw the part about Ezekiel's temple. I don't agree with that. A lot of us Premils don't.

That sounds like SDA doctrine. I didn't realize JWs hold a similar doctrine. My view is, the millennial reign takes place on earth. Zechariah 14, for example, is nonsensical if verses 16-19 are not taking place on the earth after Christ had bodily returned earlier, verses 4 and 5 in Zechariah...

I guess it would be helpful if I knew what your position is? We are already in the millennium? Or the millennium is still future?

When you say reign, do you mean being reigned over by Christ, or reigning with Christ? If you mean reigning with Christ, then yes---that reign is directly tied to the binding of satan, which (from a Premil perspective) has not yet happened. That future reign occurs when satan is bound and...

When you think about it, or least when I do, some of these robots could also be used for hunting down and killing those that refuse to worship the beast in the near future. With AI rapidly devolping like it has been, a lot of passages in Revelation are starting to make more sense now. At least...

In regards to post #240 pertaining to being reigned over vs reigning with, well there is the following to take into account here. Revelation 2:26 And he that overcometh, and keepeth my works unto the end, to him will I give power over the nations: 27 And he shall rule them with a rod of iron...

I can’t speak for every Premil out there, but here’s how I see it. No one is reigning with Christ a thousand years until the thousand years actually begin. And once those thousand years are over, that specific reign is over too. There’s a big difference between being reigned over by Christ and...

Hmmm… so that explains why I’ve been misunderstanding this passage all along. Mark 5:8–13 (KJV) For he said unto him, Come out of the man, thou unclean spirit. And he asked him, What is thy name? And he answered, saying, My name is Legion: for we are many. And he besought him much that he would...

Did you happen to take note of how Matthew 25:1 begins? It begins with a 'Then'. which then typically requires a 'when'. The when is found in the end of ch 24. What is it about those verses that would make you think anything is involving the old covenant and the new covenant? IMO, Matthew 25:1...

It can't be a coincidence that when the 1K year reign takes place is when satan's binding takes place. The context involves a period of time that has a beginning and an end. And during that era of time is when the text indicates saints are reigning with Christ. Obviously, once the 1K years...

Come on, Martin. Even 100 can be figurative at times. For example---if I told you once, I told you 100 times. Does that then mean '100' can never be literal sometimes? And besides, we are talking about years here, a cardinal number followed by years. Provide at least one example in all of the...

I do not reject OSAS. What I reject is the claim that only OSAS is biblical and that NOSAS isn’t. Both are clearly biblical truths---and that is not a contradiction. Let’s take Paul, for example. Which position fits him---OSAS or NOSAS? Obviously not the latter. He finished his course in faith...

Pretty much every post I have posted on this board, pertaining to this subject, explain numerous reasons why. One of the bigger reasons is, I'm in the NOSAS camp, and that NOSAS is not compatible with Revelation 20:6 if one holds an Amil position. That verse plainly says that anyone that has...

The following passages, and there could be more, record being cast into the LOF. Matthew 25:46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. Revelation 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him...

IOW, there is no such thing as ever logically deducing something based on the evidence one is seeing? Are you able to admit, speaking of yourself, that you have never logically deduced something based on the evidence you are noting, when the texts involved never come right out and says what you...

Yes, I have noticed that myself. Of course though, if one is not even factoring 1K day years in here, like Amils are not factoring in, they likely never noticed it to begin with. In the prophets all of the following involve 70 years. Does your point have anything to do with any of those...

Why, since that could support Amil? How can the 7th day be meaning never ending if the 7th day is the end of something, not the continuation of something? The text plainly tells us what he rested from. His rest has to do with the previous 6 days. And besides, how can there be a new day during...

Then you have to explain how human history matches the pattern involving the creation week in the beginning. Where can we see during those 6 days of creation where God is ever resting from His work during creation day 5 and 6? That's pretty much what Amils are doing with the millennium. The...

Obviously, maybe not to Amils because of doctrinal bias', the 7K years of human history are patterned after the first week of creation history. Therefore, after God rests on the 7th day from all of His creative work pertaining to the previous 6 days of creative history, a new week begins. Except...