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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    <smile> What you say here, Ronald, is quite similar in concept, actually, to what the Jews thought of the regarding the Messiah, God's Christ, even in Jesus's day. They thought the Messiah would be a great political and military leader who would conquer all their oppressors. Non-Messianic...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    I'm... painfully aware of that. <smile> Ronald, I know nothing will convince you of this (at least for now), but you and I are living in the millennial kingdom ~ as everyone has been since Jesus came, was crucified, and resurrected, and since Pentecost. One day, we will all be living in the...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Hmmm, well in the "Greater" context, you kinda just said the same thing twice. :) Except it's not just for Gentiles. :) Do you really think that Jews and Gentiles will be separated in eternity, either ethnically or physically? <chuckles> You're surely not alone in thinking as you do...
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    There is only one true church

    No. Grace and peace to you.
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    LOL! I did, Ronald. In short, the true Promised Land is the whole earth (Matthew 5;5), and... wow, is Jesus not the greater David, the true forever-King of Israel? Hmmm, I don't completely disagree; I like your code-of-justice clarification, that a punishment should fit the crime, but it's...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Right, but this "lesser" covenant ~ lesser in the sense of the immediate fulfillment when Moses (actually God, by pillar of cloud by day and fire by night) led the Isrealites through the desert to the promised land in Exodus ~ pointed to the "greater" covenant ~ greater in the sense of the true...
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    There is only one true church

    I do; no need. I was very clear in my previous post (743). It is. As I said above, the fact that John says there is a “Lord’s day” in the new covenant shows there is a day set apart in a unique way for the Lord. Paul writes in Colossians 2 about the Sabbath being past and shows that the old...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Yet more opinion. I mean, I respect it, but... <smile> Nope. In... your opinion... <smile> It always did. But "ethnic Isreal" was indicative of God's true Isreal, which was always the case. "...it is not the children of the flesh who are the children of God, but the children of the...
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    There is only one true church

    I am a bit puzzled by your obstinance, yes. <smile> Hmmm... Well, yes. :) if these "traditions of man/men" are in accordance with God's Word... To you? Well, certainly it was not insulting of anything or anyone. And that you think it was "contradictory" is just your opinion. I mean...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    But you only think I am. That I used a word or two that is not explicitly used means nothing. Generally speaking, the same things(s) can be said a number of different ways, Ronald. That's not what I did, but only your opinion. Not that they "are" the Isreal of God, but that they are of the...
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    There is only one true church

    No response to this, so, again... "On the first day of the week, when we were gathered together to break bread, Paul talked with them, intending to depart on the next day, and he prolonged his speech until midnight." (Acts 20:7) "I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day..." (Revelation 1:10)...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Yes, he did. :) He says it in a different way, but it's pretty much the same thing. All his letters are that way; if you compare them to each other, you'll see him saying the same things in slightly different ways. He talks about them separately at first, but He's talking about God's elect...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Okay, well no, I'm not. You may say I'm misunderstanding it, but not "altering" it, and even so, that is merely your opinion. I say you are not understanding it correctly. And like I said, I'm perfectly fine with you labeling what I'm saying as my opinion. The only distinction is the...
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    There is only one true church

    Hmm, well, Paul and John and Luke and the writer of Hebrews were all just men, for sure, but... <smile> I mean, you did state that the apostles and the early church worshiped on the seventh day, and it doesn't take much of a dive at all ~ as I showed ~ much less a deep one, to see that without...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Good... In Romans 11 Paul says the same thing as he says at the end of Ephesians 2, which I cited and you just agreed with. Sure, but we are grafted in... By definition, this means we are united as one and the same. Grafting is a process within horticulture ~ you know this, I think; if not...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    The Apostolic Church began at Pentecost, and today we identify the Church by its fidelity to Apostolic doctrine. But Christ's one holy catholic (universal) Church has always been. As Paul says in Ephesians 2, even to us Gentiles, we "are no longer strangers and aliens, but fellow citizens with...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    No, I'm not "one of those," Ronald. <smile> But I would say that God's Israel now consists both of believers in Christ of the Old Testament and believers in Christ now ~ all who were and are (and will be by the time Christ returns) truly in Christ make up God's true Israel, the household of...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    And subscribe to what? I think you just "reject" the labels... and probably fall at least pretty much into the latter. Most western Christians do. The fact that you suppose(d) Calvinists "don't believe in free will" says volumes. Here are Jacobus Arminius's five "objections"... 1. Free...
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Very much disagree. Sure. Disagree; Israel is the household of God. Very much disagree. Appreciate your thoughts. Grace and peace to you.
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    Christian Liberty Forced me to Leave Dispensationalism

    Arthur81 said: The Jewish theocracy was ended 1st C: Mt. 21:43-45; Lk 20:16-18; Jn 4:21-23 Eternally Grateful said: and?? This does not mean God no longer will keep his promise to them Uh-oh. <smile> Arthur81 said: There is only one people of God, not two: Gal. 3:7-9; Rm. 2:28-29, 10:12-13...