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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    Revelation 1:7 does not exist on its own; it is quoting Zechariah 12:10, whose context specifically limits that mourning of the tribes to those "IN JERUSALEM" - not the entire world. The word "also" is NOT THERE - it is inserted in italics, which means the translators are simply adding it by...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    I would say it is the "miserable focus" of those who mistakenly and stubbornly insist on placing all these Revelation disasters into our future when all the Scriptures clearly tell us that those disasters were "at hand" for the first-century generation to experience. Anything "at hand" is NOT...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    This is incorrect. Scripture never tells us that an Antichrist would require every human to take a mark. It was the "Beast from the land" with its two-horned power structure in Revelation 13 which required the mark giving homage to the ancient Sea Beast (the Sea Beast which was given the...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The translation you are using which says "and they also" is inserting those words in italics that aren't even there in the original. There is only the word "kai" which has been mistakenly translated as the word "and" when it really means "every eye shall see Him, NAMELY (kai) they which pierced...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    A matter of your personal opinion only. When I read in Luke 13:26 that those weeping and gnashing their teeth at Christ's return would be saying, "...we have eaten and drunk in thy presence, and thou hast taught in our streets...", this is something that only a first-century Israelite could...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    To make a clear demonstration to fallen mankind that our exercise of a free will choice to perform evil is not such a wonderful thing as it has been presented to be. The ability to make a free will choice while in a fallen state can yield more destructive effects than anything we can imagine.
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    The proud and the wicked are still present outside the gates of the New Jerusalem in Revelation 22:14-15 in the New Heavens and New Earth reality. "Blessed are they that do his commandments, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    What is so "lunatic" about a bodily resurrection in our future at the "END" when Christ delivers up the kingdom to God and puts down all rule, and all authority and power? You yourself believe this is scheduled for our future, do you not? But by the manner in which Paul enumerates his list in 1...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The souls of all the dead in the OT times were retained in what Scripture called Sheol. When Christ arose, He left Sheol and took a "multitude of captives" with Him (as in Ephesians 4). I believe from Scripture that this means all the souls of the righteous dead were raised from Sheol to be...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    No, I would hardly call a simple list of over a hundred Scripture quotes that speak of a first-century coming without any commentary "other people's imagination". The "First-fruits" group WAS bodily resurrected to bodily immortality. But it wasn't composed of a single person. It was a...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    It's too bad that you don't wish to take seriously the Scripture references I am submitting. Jerusalem was the site for the "furnace of fire" / "Lake of Fire" / "second death". God said through Isaiah 31:9 that His fire was in Zion and His furnace in Jerusalem. Death and Hell were thrown into...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Anybody with a moderate interest in doing language research into these things has the tools readily available to do so online. I am certainly not at the professorial doctorate level that my brother is, but that level isn't really necessary to form some really basic conclusions regarding the...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    First of all, to be a bit more exact, it wasn't scorpions - it was those creatures termed "locusts" who had tails like scorpions who were not allowed to hurt the 144,000 First-fruits with God's seal in their foreheads. And yes, it was during the years of the "Great Tribulation" for those in...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Not quite the right quote. Christ said in Luke 21:16-18 that even though the disciples would be persecuted and put to death, "But there shall not an hair of your heads perish". The fate destined for the bodies of the righteous dead is that their mortal remains will be bodily resurrected and...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    It is not "conjecture" to say that the Jewish leadership was out to get Lazarus, as well as Christ. John 12:10-11 tells us this. It is not "conjecture" to say that Lazarus was referred to as "He whom thou lovest" in John 11:3. It was well known that Jesus loved Martha, and her sister Mary...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Yes, they do. Practically every book except maybe a couple in the NT has something to say about Christ's first-century return. The predictions are there, and are even more obvious when one refers to the original language. I'm not arguing that Christ is not the First-fruits. He was. But it...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The souls of the wicked dead are raised to stand before God in the judgment - but not their physical bodies. Isaiah 26:14 tells us this about the bodies of the wicked dead. "They are dead, they shall NOT LIVE; they are deceased, they shall NOT RISE: therefore hast thou visited and destroyed...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    You did not live back then to be an eye-witness either way. We are to rely on the Scriptures, which tell us repeatedly about the first-century return of Christ. Even today, the atheist derides Christians by mocking us for all of the Scripture promises that Christ would bodily return in that...
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    Archaeological proof of Christ's AD 70 bodily return

    Again, you are inserting an artificial limitation of "and ONLY HE" on this verse that isn't there. Jesus is called "the First-fruits" of those who had fallen asleep because He participated in that first bodily resurrection event that day which ALSO included the many Matthew 27:52-53 saints...
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    When Christ returns, we shall all be changed, including heaven and earth, actually all things are changed out for something better.

    The souls of the "unjust" wicked dead (but not their mortal remains in the grave) rise to be judged in the "resurrection to destruction". That is what the word "damnation" means. Psalms 1:5 tells me that "the wicked shall not stand in the judgment". Their dead bodies are left to...