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  1. Wick Stick

    How old is the Earth?

    Carbon dating isn't the end-all be-all. It's a good bit of science, that has unfortunately been frequently mis-used. But, the record of human civilization in northeast Turkey and Armenia is a continuous unbroken record stretching back much further than 7000 years.
  2. Wick Stick

    How old is the Earth?

    The archaeological record for intelligent humans goes back at least 12,000 years. What do you do with the stuff we've dug up that's older than 7,000? Things like Gobekli Tepe show that the builders possessed human intelligence well before the 7,000 year mark.
  3. Wick Stick

    How old is the Earth?

    I agree to a point... the age of the earth is not important. However, there's a problem that has arisen because science and religion disagree so drastically. The church is viewed from without as caring more about tradition than truth. And if the church doesn't have the truth...
  4. Wick Stick

    How old is the Earth?

    Lots of good points. Perhaps this is why Paul twice directs us to IGNORE the genealogies: Titus 3:9 But avoid foolish questions, and genealogies, and contentions, and strivings about the law; for they are unprofitable and vain. 1Timothy 1:4 Neither give heed to fables and endless...
  5. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    It IS obviously true that it's a simile'. This is English 101. Bald-faced lying now? This conversation is over. You're muted. I don't waste time conversing with those who aren't honest.
  6. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    You don't seem to be arguing honestly. All I did was point out a simile'. In what way is that begging the question? It isn't. Right, this is the crux of my argument - Adam is NOT a type of Christ. The rest of your argument falls apart if Adam isn't a type of Christ.
  7. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    You don't seem to know what a 'begging the question' means. There's no question mark in my previous post. Context - Paul hopes that the church WON'T be like Eve. That's not a type. That's not even a comparison.
  8. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    That's a simile' rather than a type
  9. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    I'm not trying to exonerate Adam. That's a reasonable interpretation, but I don't see it that way. Where Paul posits Jesus as the "new Adam" I don't think he's creating a pairing of type-to-antitype. Every other antitype is LIKE the type; not its opposite. And if that isn't a pair, then we...
  10. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    I'm not ignoring free will. Adam did know - he chose to please his wife instead of God. As the head, he is ultimately responsible. None of that does anything to reverse the fact that Eve led Adam into sin in that story. Eve is not a figure of righteousness, but of unrighteousness. In the...
  11. Wick Stick

    Heretic Augustine vs Pelagius

    The subject matter is interesting, but I just can't do 50 minutes of a computer reading text. o_O
  12. Wick Stick

    Mary as New Eve

    Eve is NOT a positive figure in the Bible. She leads Adam into sin in the story. If there's an antitype to Eve, it's the idea of Israel being seduced by foreign nations, or those in the church being led astray by an unbelieving spouse. "Unequally yoked"
  13. Wick Stick

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    They have a lot in common. I would guess that the two came from a common ancestor that split. Nobody hates each other quite like two factions that came from the same place. The Calvinists and Arminians can testify to that.
  14. Wick Stick

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    That claim doesn't hold water at all.
  15. Wick Stick

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    If we exclude Moses, the OT prophets harmonize really well with each other. I can't really think of any contradictions between them off the top of my head, and I didn't find many skimming the list you posted. I can't say the same for the Old Testament books of history. There are a ton of small...
  16. Wick Stick

    Did God approve or disapprove of the Jewish temple?

    My point was that you can't say "the prophets contradict each other" and then point to two passages that aren't prophets.
  17. Wick Stick

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    I've come to divide the Bible into prophets and not-prophets. The not-prophets seem to contain a lot of contradictions.
  18. Wick Stick

    Does the Bible contradict itself? - Reader Poll (and discussion)

    The Amorites appear to have divided their gods into 3 categories - sky gods, earth gods, and water gods. Elohim are their sky gods - all the children of the chief sky god El. Also, when a man became king of a Canaanite/Amorite city-state, it was customary to be adopted as a son of El. That...
  19. Wick Stick

    Did God approve or disapprove of the Jewish temple?

    Hold up... not every Biblical book is written by a prophet. 1 Chronicles is NOT a book of prophecy; it's a book of history. It shouldn't be treated as the words of a prophet. 1&2 Samuel are squishy on this point. Samuel was a prophet, but the Biblical book seems to be written ABOUT Samuel...
  20. Wick Stick

    Did God approve or disapprove of the Jewish temple?

    That's only true sometimes. There are many places where the Bible puts words directly in God's mouth - 'thus saith the Lord.' In other places it seems to indicate special revelation with the phrase 'the Word of the Lord came to the prophet.' That one doesn't indicate a verbatim quote, but it...