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  1. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    Well.... The whole thing started with Galatians 4:26 and after trying to understand this correctly you are having a meltdown. If you wanted to discuss Revelations start with a quote from there. I just took the first point and examined it and where it appears to be referring to harlots it...
  2. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    Stop with the baseless accusations. Let's continue on with the Galatians 4:26.... Now to isolate what Paul is saying to one verse is a mistake of understanding what he says. Now the preceeding verses discuss the differences between Hagar, the slave woman, and Sarah who was the wife and...
  3. JohnDB

    Poll: Do we worship the God of the old covenant?

    There was a theologian in 134 AD that proposed this concept of a harsh God of the Old Covenant but a kind God of the New Covenant. Yeah....excommunicated unanomously by the early church....and they had some knock down drag out hammer and tongs discussions over theological matters. But...
  4. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    Well, I'm trying to have a discussion about Galatians 4...which is what you started with. I was asking for the logic behind why you believe what you believe. Because to me it's very close to perfect but off just a tad. And when using one scripture as a springboard for a theology gluing the...
  5. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    Let's start somewhere else. Too too much information. Let's start with a syndoche. People don't care what you know if they don't know you care. Now if you had bothered to discuss or care about my concern about Galatians 4 then you had a shot. As it is the rest is just hot air...
  6. JohnDB

    How do you pronounce YHWH

    What's in a name? In Old Testament literature and scriptures generally speaking names are not tags. And in our Westernized mindset it's easy for us to put our familiarities with Westernized Cultural literature into Ancient Near Eastern literature. No matter how ludicrous this sounds when I...
  7. JohnDB

    Judging your mother. Judging your sisters

    I stopped at your Galatians 4 symbolism. A little off to start a journey is a long way off at the end of the journey.
  8. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    I study scriptures. I know the mechanics, the languages, the people. I am always amazed at what they say and how they say what they say. The Bible is a miracle. There is a level of complexity to scriptures that is unreproduceable in today's world. Although many have tried, they have...
  9. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    It does say its complete....you just refuse to believe it. That's all there is to the matter. I don't believe creeds or anything above scripture. Scripture is the basis of our faith. And when it says it's complete...guess what? I believe scriptures over anyone or anything. Especially...
  10. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    And there lies the red line you cannot cross. You have added to and therefore subtracted what has been said by God. The Bible had been complete for thousands of years when Joseph Smith added to it. Signed sealed and delivered. What had fundamentally changed? In EVERY time past when...
  11. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Because you dodged mine by something that sounds like the truth but is not. God, through the agency of Jesus, created ALL. That doesn't mean God is the father of all. (John 1) Jesus told the Pharisees that they had Satan as their father instead of Abraham. And yet.... Abraham was indeed...
  12. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Your side stepping of the question is highly revealing. You use names like they are tags instead of titles. And with this cleverly sounding system of theology, Mormons have created a different religion and God. They are not the same. It's not a theology test. It's a difference of gods...
  13. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    You can play all the games you like but I'm not. The dead cannot converse with the living through some bit of paper. And you can post all the scriptures you want about demon possession from the New Testament. But just so you know....Jesus was pretending to be an exorcist. No one in his...
  14. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Exactly! I was breaking down the various resources and mechanics to decipher scripture that surround Ephesians 5:18. "Do not be full of wine but instead be full of the Holy Spirit" And I went through the mechanics of how this was in actuality more of a summary statement than another...
  15. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Why? Do you not know the scriptures? How do you have a faith when you do not know God's words to us? This is not an obscure story or even unpopular. The verses are some of the most read and reread ones out there.
  16. JohnDB

    Are Mormons Christians? (Latter Day Saints)

    Is Jesus a brother to Satan? (Yes or no please) If "yes" then it's not so much a theology test but a different Jesus that is based on ours but vastly different.
  17. JohnDB

    Are Tarot cards okay?

    Personally, I think they are laughable and ridiculous. As if some bit of printed paper is capable of bridging between the dead and the living. When Jesus quite clearly said its impossible. And if Jesus said it's impossible....except for Him....the rest are simply playing games.
  18. JohnDB

    Addressing the the ethical eating argument

    I still reply with Colossians 2:23. It's only an appearance of wisdom. Meaning it is not.