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    Imagine a World with no Christians!

    You are all over the place. Stay on one subject without jumping around.
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    Imagine a World with no Christians!

    Did I or the commentary say “purgatory”? No, we didn’t. You said there is no sin and my response proves otherwise. The souls go to hades. When Christ died, his soul didn’t go to heaven. It actually went to hades, what is hell. The realm of the dead.
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    Imagine a World with no Christians!

    @Timtofly Perhaps this commentary I’ll post below will clear up what @James Macbeth was saying: By the blasphemy here spoken of, we are evidently to understand injurious or impious speaking against the Spirit of God, such as the Pharisees were now guilty of; that is, attributing to the devil...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    IMHO, you are right by saying Israel is not replaced. The church doesn’t supersede Israel. Then what? There is Israel of the flesh and of the spirit. Concerning the spirit, the Ekklesia is joined to, not replacing, Israel. Just as Abraham is our father in the spirit and not the flesh. And those...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    Wrong! Paul did not say absent from the body = immediately with Christ. He said, he’d rather be absent from the body and instead be present with the Lord. Willing to want one over the other is not the same as saying one equals the other immediately upon death. We all want to be with Christ. In...
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    The soon coming rapture?

    People do prepare for Christ, but the garbage preached by many on this site causes them to eat food not from his table.
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    The soon coming rapture?

    So many teachers here and so much falsehood. Everyone thinks they are right in their own eyes. And the scripture they give is cherry picked without full understanding. I wish it wasn’t so.
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    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    He And that change to immortality happens at the glorious ephiphaneia when Christ comes back for his 1k year reign on earth. The end and the last day are 2 separate topics.
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    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    In the passage you quoted, you negated something important. 1. We at Christ coming; Resurrection of the dead (2nd Advent vs.23) 2. When he shall deliver up the kingdom - Where in Revelation 11, he begins to reign. Because he has to put down all rule, authority and power per vs. 24 3. Vs. 25...
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    The Church Is The Israel Of God, Children Of The Promised Seed

    IMHO, that could be 90-95% of the registered base. All claiming "they read" the Bible. I'm sure most do. But how many are reading books by specific false teachers, getting "church doctrine" watching YouTube videos and subscribing to various videos by themed subjects such as eschatology to...
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    If Revelation 20 said we live and reign with Christ for 1k years, how do you discount Rev 5? 10And hast made us unto our God kings and priests: and we shall reign on the earth. Our reign is on earth with Christ.
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    In heaven for 1k years? The apostasy has already started. A literal building with literal streets of gold and a gate made up of 1 literal pearl right? And billions of Saints? You think the true church numbers in the billions? I wish! Great, we don’t have to shop for presents or attend birthday...
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    I think your failure to recognize the church is the true Israel, the sons of God and the heirs to the promise is your stumbling block in eschatology. Israel according to the flesh are not the sons of God and will not receive the promises. And there is no partition to separate Christians from...
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    Obviously, you didn’t read. And you’re right, I did leave a verse. Why do I need to? Do you need me to instruct you? If so, we can go to a private room and if you’re willing to listen, I’ll do so. Otherwise, you should study yourself and ask the spirit to guide you. You asked for a quote, I...
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    Fine. I will post 1 and if you assume it's in error, I will assume you to think all the rest of anyone's sayings are in error. Irenaeus (c.120–c.202) 2nd Bishop of Lyon in France. Taught by Polycarp, Bishop of Smyrna, hearer of John the apostle And therefore, when in the end the Church shall...
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    Tribulation Saints? A Contradiction

    I accept what scripture holds true. Their words (the early church) are as good as any commentary if not more so because they lived when the true doctrine was being past down. I don’t automatically discount them as in error as you do. They are men that loved our Lord, lived their lives for him...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    Misquoting verses again Timtofly. Here’s a question, where did Christ go to when he died? And when you get the answer, who else was there. Hmm it wasn’t Heaven where no man has ascended to.
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    I only brought that up because it wasn’t the only “come up hither”. And I don’t believe that is the resurrection either. I never said that. But you using the first one as a rapture makes John the universal church and you’re spiritualizing him. No where in scripture is John made to represent...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    There is also a come up hither in Rev 11. But the John is never himself spiritualized as the church universal anywhere in scripture. The church is the saints. The Ekklesia isn’t mentioned in 10 NT books. With your same logic, those books have nothing to do with the church. They’re absent right...
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    Timing of Eze 37 and 38 pre Trib?

    The bride was raptured? Ok. Where is the great multitude? The bema seat? The reward? The archangel? The last trumpet? The kingdom? Sorry, none of those exist in Rev 4 or 5 and Christ cannot, will not leave Heaven till the restoration of all things per Acts 3:21 and I’m afraid nothing is restored...