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  1. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    H2S, Are you saying that as long as people are on the earth and become Christian, the Holy Spirit will continue to give the full range of the gifts of the Spirit? Oz
  2. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    ViJ, Based on my knowledge of the Greek, this is a pretty good translation: 'But when what is complete comes, the things that are not complete will pass away' (1 Cor 13:10 CEV). When will that completion come? Now all we can see of God is like a cloudy picture in a mirror. Later we will...
  3. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    ViJ, Please address the topic I raised of when the gifts of the Spirit will cease. Cherry picking verses doesn't go down well with me. Oz
  4. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    That happens when the tongues are interpreted in the public gathering of the church.
  5. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    farouk, There is no indication in the context of 1 Cor 13 that it ceased after the time of the Apostles. It will cease. When will that be? Let's check Scripture: 8 Love never fails. But where there are prophecies, they will cease; where there are tongues, they will be stilled; where there is...
  6. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    farouk, It's a supernatural language given by God that requires the gift of interpretation in the public assembly (1 Cor 14). It must be intelligible to the listener. Oz
  7. OzSpen

    Does the manifestation of the Spirit profit all?

    ViJ, One of the keys to understanding the difference between Acts 2 and 1 Cor 12-14 is that Paul corrected the Corinthians for their disorderly gathering when they came together. His instruction was: 6 Now, brothers and sisters, if I come to you and speak in tongues, what good will I be to...
  8. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Which are they? Would you please give your biblical reasons for the cessation of those gifts?
  9. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Do you agree that the full range of gifts of the Spirit in Rom 12, 1 Cor 12-14, and Eph 4:11-13 continue today?
  10. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    From where in the Bible did you get that theology?
  11. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Reformed, Isn't that a gift of the Spirit that continues today? Jesus restored a demon-possessed man (Mk 5:1-17 NIV). See also Matt 8:28-34 (NIV). Remember what Jesus said about all who believe in Him? 'Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they...
  12. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    reformed, Go to Peru as a missionary and proclaim the Gospel among those practising spiritism and you'll soon realise you need to cry out to God for the gift of casting out demons. Go to deprived countries with limited medical facilities and you'll understand the need for God-given miracles...
  13. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    To whom are you responding?o_O
  14. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Paul, What an idea. I'm blessed to remember our fallen diggers from WW1 where we lost at Gallipoli in 1915-16. The Gallipoli campaign was a costly failure for the Allies, with an estimated 27,000 French, and 115,000 British and dominion troops (Great Britain and Ireland, Australia, New...
  15. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    reformed, I do wish you would back quote so we know which poster you are referring to. Would you please be courteous to all of us in doing this? To back quote, use the 'Reply' icon at the bottom right of a post. Thanks, Oz
  16. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Paul, A fellow who was in an AoG Bible College with me in the 1970s invited me to his ACC Church (new name for AoG) in a neighbouring suburb. When they they started to worship, it was chaos with most speaking or singing in tongues, but with no interpretation. I could not understand what was...
  17. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Thanks for your opinion Truther.:rolleyes:
  18. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Paul, The apostle is very strict in his God-given message of how the ministry of tongues ought to be expressed in the public gathering. For this reason the one who speaks in a tongue should pray that they may interpret what they say. 14 For if I pray in a tongue, my spirit prays, but my mind...
  19. OzSpen

    Miracles and certain spiritual gifts

    Paul, What would you say about David Wilkerson's prophecy of 1986? He was killed in an auto crash in 2011. Is that statement found inside the Bible? Oz