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I'll make it simple, what do pre-tribs believe the APOSTASIA means?

I'm not in the habit of researching others' opinions. The listing of 2 Thes 2.3 here is the contributor's personal opinion. Do me a favor, I want to check something. Can you tell me the pre-trib position in your own words. I really am not sure how well you understand the pre-trib position.

Daniel 9 gives the time line of the last 7 years of the Jewish Dispensation. The covenant signed is for a 7 year period. Your other verses say that the DOTL comes as a thief in the night. This is a reference to the Rapture. Anyone in the Tribulation can calculate the day of Christ's second...

What most do not realize is that from the time Jerome translated the New Testament into Latin in the fourth century to the time of the KJV, there was an unbroken record of apostasia being translated “departing.” To our knowledge, no one in the early church and up to the early seventeenth century...

What are all the possible definitions of ἀσθενεστέρῳ? Hint, you wont find it in any Lexicon. Note that I am not asking about a translation of a word, but the word itself.

Do you know why 2 Thes 2.3 is listed in this Lexicon? It is the contributor's opinion. I hardly think a person's opinion (just like you have) is something to cite as proof of one's position.

The day of the Lord is first defined in the Old Testament. The OT knows nothing of the Great Tribulation, just the Tribulation. Dan 9 gives us the time period of 7 years.

I cut and pasted this from Wikipedia. I have read a different story on Blandina, but this will give you most of her story. The traditional account regarding Blandina is reported by Eusebius in his Historia Ecclesiastica. Blandina belonged to the band of martyrs of Lyon who, after some of their...

We will not know what the Bible SAYS until we first know what the Bible IS.

I think I better just give you a translation of 2 Thes 2:1-3, maybe then you can follow what I have been saying all along: Now concerning the arrival of our Lord Jesus Christ and our gathering together with him (the Rapture), we ask you all not to be easily shaken from your composure or...

I was really hoping to get someone who can defend their position. Will anyone else give this question a try?

There is nothing new in this brief post. I am just looking for how non Pre-Tribbers arrive at the meaning of APOSTASIA. A point of linguistics can help us better understand the noun APOSTASIA. The noun takes its meaning/usage from the verb. In this case, the cognate verb is AFISTHMI...

Jack, The answer to this is the same answer for why a serious bible student doesn't learn the original languages.

This is a darn good question: "Can you just answer one question, though? What do you think would be the reason that Paul mentioned the rapture in 2 Thess 2:1 if none of the rest of the chapter has anything to do with the rapture?"

I want to clarify something I have found when studying the Judgment Seat of Christ. Most, if not all, commentators state that the BEMA seat was a raised platform at the Olympic Games where the winners were give their rewards for winning a contest by Judges. I just want to point out that there...

discessĭo , ōnis, f. discedo. I. (Very rarely), a separation of married persons, Ter. And. 3, 3, 36; “of the people into parties (with seditio),” Gell. 2, 12: “stellarum et discessiones et coetus,” separations and conjunctions, id. 14, 1, 8; cf.: “plebei a patribus, et aliae dissensiones,”...

What I contend is that you are saying, "the apostasia/rapture occurs before the rapture." More clearly, you are saying that the rapture occurs before the rapture.

I took this brief article out of my Archives; not sure when I wrote it but it was more than 10 years ago I don’t know why, but sometimes I just gotta say something, and this is one of those times. I’m upset so I’ll keep it very brief lest I let the sun go down on my anger. I was driving home...

Below is a dramatic account of a man named Polycarp, a friend of the Apostle John himself. On the fateful day described below (somewhere near the year 150 AD), Polycarp was asked to renounce Christ in exchange for his life. Unmoved by the threat of death, Polycarp, having received his...

The Latin word used in the Vulgate is discessio, which means departure. Departure was the word used to describe the Rapture until the KJV introduced a new translation.