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  1. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    They want us to accept that it is OK to add to God's words what HE never said. And if we speak out against the error, well then we are just causing division in the Body.
  2. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    This is why we suffer the hate from our Brethren and those who worship the idol of pre-trib. Now we know, in part, what the OT prophets had to suffer from their brethren. We have not been put to death by them - not yet
  3. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    Have you noticed people quoting the supposed 'church fathers' that came AFTER the Apostles, as if they knew better!!! We are commanded to only believe the words of Christ, His Apostles and the OT Prophets
  4. David in NJ

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Most assuredly, I say to you, he who believes in Me, the works that I do he will do also; and greater works than these he will do, because I go to My Father. 13And whatever you ask in My name, that I will do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son. 14If you ask anything in My name, I will...
  5. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    You still have not brought forth a single scripture that exonerates 'pre-trib' rapture from being a LIE This is God's love for you marks and mine as well. Christians putting their own words upon CHRIST and the Apostles is called sin and i hope you will SEE this before you stand before the LORD.
  6. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    No pre-trib rapture in those verses which i SEE and BELIEVE How about the scriptures whereby you claim: a.) rapture occurs BEFORE the AoD and before the Resurrection b.) we go UP to heaven for 7 years c.) JESUS will leave behind saints d.) JESUS must have a 3rd Coming in order to Resurrect the...
  7. David in NJ

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    What "different gods" ??? the FATHER is Elohim the SON is Elohim the HOLY SPIRIT is Elohim Are we not to worship the True and Living Elohim??? i pray to the Lord Jesus Christ i pray to my FATHER who is in Heaven i pray in the Holy Spirit and pray for His Guidance as promised/prophesied by...
  8. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    You claim that i am in sin by pointing out to you that by you adding to God's words what HE never said - pre-trib rapture- you are calling God a liar. God said this BEFORE you or i were ever born marks = Proverbs 30:5-6 Every word of God is pure; He is a shield to those who put their trust in...
  9. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    REALLY? - Where is this in scripture Also, i have posted 1 Thess 4:13-18 at least two times for you and @marks 1 Thess 4:16 For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of an archangel, and with the trumpet of God 1Thess 4:17 - "And the dead in Christ will Rise...
  10. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    Any evidence of your accusation would be a HUGE HELP "DO NOT LIE AGAINST the TRUTH" = can you see this @marks??? Is pre-trib rapture from Above or is it earthly sensual and devilish??? How can you prove if it is Above or below from men???
  11. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    Before JESUS descends back to earth HE comes on the clouds for the Resurrection and Rapture. Yes or No
  12. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    You can prove that you love JESUS by showing me that pre-trib rapture came out of the Mouth of God. "But in your hearts sanctify Christ as Lord, always ready for a defense to everyone asking you an account concerning the hope in you" i have asked you simple questions in Post 130
  13. David in NJ

    THE Trinity can Now be discussed.

    Here is the exact words of Truth He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn over all creation. For by Him all things were created that are in heaven and that are on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or principalities or powers. All things were created through...
  14. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    i posted the precise scriptures from the LORD and the Apostles who all AGREE and say that the LORD comes AFTER the Tribulation. Can you find just one scripture in the Gospel where JESUS says: "I will come BEFORE the AoD for My church/saints" Can you find just one scripture from the Apostles...
  15. David in NJ

    Exploring Trinitarian Logic

    Now look up the Shema in Hebrew - use Strong's on Biblehub - easy
  16. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    Love you my Brother i am trying to approach this with marks on the most humble platform i can take We either believe Christ at His words or we don't! However, if we start placing our words upon Christ, that right there is a PROBLEM
  17. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    How is the behavior of speaking the TRUTH of the Gospel to you unacceptable by you???
  18. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    Well, what do you say to a person who is saying the OPPOSITE of the words of Christ??? Marks, this is how i SEE you: a.) You are SAVED by the Blood of Christ b.) You are my dear Brother in Christ b.) You are an intelligent man c.) You are a Baptist??? or at least follow some Baptist doctrines
  19. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    @marks When the Light of God's Word shows you the Truth concerning the lie of pre-trib rapture - i am here for YOU
  20. David in NJ

    How does a "Heresy" operate?

    God's love to you @Behold and @marks is to get you uncomfortable with the lie of pre-trib. This is done by the Holy Scriptures which CANNOT lie. The Holy Scriptures spoken to you from your Brother in Christ WITHOUT condemnation but with direct emphasis on TRUTH We either AGREE with "It is...