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  1. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    Instead of looking for instruction in Mormonism... which I know nothing about...you should ask me for instruction in righteousness, holiness and the gospel. After you learn about that we can proceed into deeper truth. Seeing your desire to learn more about being a Mormon, I suggest you talk to...
  2. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes. But there is a cost to experiencing the spiritual walk that is superimposed on this temporal walk. The cost is ALL. The parables of Jesus make that clear....and this can be experienced. When we find the treasure...or are shown the treasure...think "Born-again of the Spirit"....we have to...
  3. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Actually an even greater honour is to walk where Jesus walked in His eternal light WHERE He is. Fewer and fewer share God's love of Zion where divinity and humanity come into ONE.
  4. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Biggest honour so far...you mean. Now you have shut down the whole process based on your own evaluation of a free sample of grace. Make sure no one takes it from you...maybe bury it to keep it safe? :oops:
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The Jerusalem which is above the mother of us all...those who have been birthed anew from Zion.. In the Septuagint Ps 87 reads like this... renton's Septuagint Psalms 87:5 A man shall say, Zion is my mother; and such a man was born in her; and the Highest himself has founded her. I may be...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That's better. Unless one is born again one cannot either see or enter into God's kingdom realm. But do you understand what that means? It's like saying unless one is born of flesh one cannot see or enter into planet earth. Basic stuff. Unless we are born INTO Zion and the realm of the SPIRIT...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I can't give a good answer to a bad question. Improve your question and you will get a better answer. You are still at the stage where there is no sense to your questioning...like what colour is 5? How can one answer seriously something like that?
  8. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    An excellent analogy. Taking that plant outside to grow big and tall is akin to taking our sample of grace to plant it in God's garden...where God is...in His abode in Zion in the Spirit...being translated into the kingdom of His dear Son...so that it can grow into the likeness of Christ. What...
  9. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Required for what? Do you even know? Or is this something that you are so indoctrinated you act like a zombie saying...I must have...I must have (not knowing why, of course) :running:
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Unlike Jesus, we don't get an unlimited amount of grace. :) We get enough for the task at hand. We have each received a measure of faith....and a measure of grace. A measure means not the full amount. Like a downpayment. Yes, that's how it works. Without that kind of spiritual birth we are...
  11. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    It appears you have achieved the same level of understanding the Mormon doctrine as that of the gospel...namely...nothing. :goodj:
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    We live in a temporal world...born into it as human beings, from OTHER human beings...limited to what we experience through our natural senses. To be born of the Spirit is by the will of God...opening us up to eternal possibilities in Christ...(the HOPE of glory)...by giving us a sample of His...
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    Subjective Religions and the Objective Gospel

    Yep....WAYYYY over your head. How predictable. hmmx1:
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    Subjective Religions and the Objective Gospel

    Very serious. Oh so serious...grumpy serious...like this...:waves:
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I wondered that about you! ;) But you are wrong. A natural human is both good and evil. There is the tree called the tree of the knowledge (and experience) of good AND evil. People are mixed. But the wicked can go towards the evil just as the righteous can move towards the good. Neither doing so...
  16. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    No. Jesus Christ is the Lord, and being born again is a good thing. :) (See I'm doing what you are doing here...making statements that have NOTHING to do with the response....welcome to confusion)
  17. Episkopos

    Subjective Religions and the Objective Gospel

    Not really. Cain was given the opportunity to get it right by God. Genesis 4:7 If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him. Abel was not chosen. His sacrifice was accepted by...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    The Lord of course. We only become a saint when our egos are crucified with Christ...when the "I" is no longer operating because it is crucified dead. At that point our inner self can be translated to walk in the light as He is in the light. (A real light that can be seen, felt and experienced)...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I see you added the last sentence. Yes, the righteous submit to God in fear and trembling. They (we) can learn to be subject to the righteousness of God, even if we are not embodying it. The meek will inherit the earth. Although the righteous can be LED by the Spirit. (we can follow Christ from...
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    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    I have the training of one...the calling and experiences of one...for sure...whether I am worthy of being regarded as one by God...I have my doubts. My confidence is in God...not my own faithfulness. I am just a human, and can get caught up with things. I know the difficulty of the narrow way...