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Paul about the end of his life - 2Tim 4:6 For I am already being poured out as a drink offering, and the time of my departure has come. 2Tim 4:7 I have fought the good fight, I have finished the race, I have kept the faith. 2Tim 4:8 Henceforth there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness...

When you came to Christ, you became a new creation, made changes in your life, that is work / fruits. What if you would not have made any changes and kept doing the sinful things of your past, would you still be saved?

Finally :vgood: Excellent question, but let's enjoy our hard fought agreement for the moment. :grinning:

Okay, we made progress. On v10 - when you came to Christ, you became a new creation, made changes in your life, that is work / fruits. What if you would not have made any changes and kept doing the sinful things of your past, would you still be saved?

Nice.

Correct. Correct. Correct. False, it's you not understanding grace, so let's start from scratch. Now please hear me out and try to understand what I am saying. God gave the Law to Israel through Moses. The Mosaic Law contained 613 laws Jews were obliged to keep (works). The Mosaic Law...

That's a typical hyper-grace remark. From gotquestions which is OSAS [!!] we read - The term hyper-grace has been used to describe a new wave of teaching that emphasizes the grace of God to the exclusion of other vital teachings such as repentance and confession of sin. Hyper-grace teachers...

False, let's check context. Matt 24:10 And then many will fall away and betray one another and hate one another. Matt 24:11 And many false prophets will arise and lead many astray. Matt 24:12 And because lawlessness will be increased, the love of many will grow cold. Matt 24:13 But the one who...

Allowing the created free will. The question would be : did God foreknew the fall of Satan before he was created ? And did God foreknew the fall of A&E before they were created ? I say yes twice. And if so, what can we conclude from that.

Matt 24:13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. How is it not ? Jesus demands to keep the faith till the end. No ! What a strange connection you make. 1Joh 1:8 If we say we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. 1Joh 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is...

Why not take my word for it ? I am not your slave. Besides we have been there .

Nope, evil is the opposite of God, a nasty byproduct of free will. The Plan - the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. Decided between God the Father and God the Son before creation. God foreknew. And decided to create in spite of. At the cost of God the Son, a part of Himself.

Well said and amen.

Calling me a liar EG ?? Rom 8:31 What then shall we say to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? Rom 8:32 He who did not spare his own Son but gave him up for us all, how will he not also with him graciously give us all things? Rom 8:33 Who shall bring any charge against God's...

And there we go again, insults and judgements.

Scripture I posted was not about the Matt 24 tribulation, but about the sower (the passages you snipped and did not comment) and the 3 types of Christians Jesus described, 2 of them failed. I have seen you arguing that born again can not be unborn and that those sealed with the Holy Spirit can...

Matt 24 is not the only passage that speaks to endure till the end (death), I think you know that., if not I will show you. The Lord wants to see it played out, if our faith holds under any circumstance. Matt 13:18 “Hear then the parable of the sower: Matt 13:19 When anyone hears the word of...

That's correct Behold. But Jesus ALSO said - Matt 24:13 But the one who endures to the end will be saved. So Jesus is talking about those who endured to the end (death).

That.

Yep. I was told. But I changed my mind, some people are able. Because Scripture told me so, still do. Eh ? I did not, still not. Why on Earth do you say that? We are talking about the interpretation of Scripture passages, truth seeking, nothing to do trusting the Lord. 101% serious...