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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    Why do you think the AC is the FP? If the beast is the image of the FP, how do you rectify the idea that the beast of the sea existed in the past “was”, and the FP makes an image of that very beast. It doesn’t say he makes an image of himself. Nor does the image survive from the past to future...
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    What is the fig tree?

    Jay Ross, If Israel is the fig tree and you say it budded in 1948, who were all the other trees (nations) that also had to bud in 1948 if you take the text that way? Cause I’m not familiar with multiple nations being born that year….
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    Day of the Lord - Introduction

    As I read the back and forth banter, I can’t help but think of 2 Timothy. 7Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. For everyone that I read keeps saying “I’m right, you’re wrong”..that is not walking in Christ likeness. What happened to being humble? Or Love? How...
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    The Rapture Is in Olivet Discourse

    Im unsure why you are repeating points. I’ve already stated, the resurrection is doctrinal. But eschatological theories are not. That is the point. I’m not sure why you bring up the harpazo. When did I say it was separate? Perhaps you misread someone else’s comment.
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    Understanding The Great Trib

    Just have 2 questions if that is ok. 1. Why do we need to leave earth? If we are changed instantly (those alive) and the rest were already dead, what could hurt us on earth if we are immortal? Can immortal or the dead be hurt? 2. What scripture says we leave earth at the resurrection?
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    The Rapture Is in Olivet Discourse

    Please read what I said before responding critically. I said Pre-TB is not a church doctrine. The resurrection is a church doctrinal issue. Many eschatological types have the resurrection in them. That doesn’t make them doctrines. That is, specifics we must hold to coming from God without any...
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    Very interesting thought on the matter. I’ve seen others follow this line of reasoning too. Some in the 1700’s wrote on the same topic. I don’t agree with it, but that is ok. We learn from each other sometimes when we have open ears and open minds. Thank you for sharing with me.
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    I wasn’t clearly shown anything I’m afraid. You are fixated on choosing personal pronouns by specific interpretations when there are interpretations that differ. But regardless of whose, scripture identifies and gives the listener the answer. There is no need to reply to me Truth7t7, You have...
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    Hello Cassandra. Quite a beautiful name even if it’s for an avatar. Some people think that. Others think it’s Islamic. Then again, if you live in China, some think it’s there. Some think Russia. Notice the similarities in this issue? In some degree, where you live or who your enemy is can have...
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    So men rise from the sea and men have multiple heads with crowns and men share characteristics of previous kingdoms; bear, lion and leopard? Sounds like you have it figured out. But if you’re wrong, than what?
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    I come to you to talk about these matters but your lack of love and an attitude anything but Christian gives cause for concern. You receive nothing when your heart is darkened. Nothing but a poor testimony.
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    There is much to discuss here. First, your pride. When you say things like: I don't make errors when I talk about Prophesies You need to humble yourself and repent. We are all human and we all make mistakes constantly in life till the day we die. Next, though I could go tidbit for tidbit over...
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    Apologize for the long wait to reply, I’ve been very busy today. I appreciate the acknowledgement Randy and respect that. As far as Rome is concerned, John was told there are 7 heads (of the beast). One “is”, which during John’s time was Roman. But he was also told the beast that was and is...
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    The Rapture Is in Olivet Discourse

    The text in question says we who are alive at his coming, will be saved. I don’t disagree with that. In regards to my name, your judgmental attitude assumes that because I don’t believe Pre-TB to be scriptural I’m somehow making up my own interpretation? Opinions are fine. But I am to be...
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    IMHO, You have made a few grievous scriptural errors. 1. The 4th beasts does not receive a mortal wound. One of the head(s) of the beast with 7 heads received the wound. Rev 13:3 How many heads does a man have? 2. The last beast of Daniel, referring to the beast that comes out of the sea, is...
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    (Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

    Though I’m sure you’re joking, nation will never learn war with nation again. Their weapons will turn into farming instruments. War is the opposite of Christ.
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    Is The Beast Of Revelation 13:1-8 A Political System On Earth?

    It’s important when explaining a personal position on future events not yet fulfilled, you do it in a way to demonstrate your opinion. Making statements appear as facts are not credible. They are opinions. “The 4th beast is the Roman Empire.” Plenty of people could argue their own opinions...
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    (Adultery) C.I. Scofield And Dispensationalism's Foundations

    Well, You believe we won’t be around for any of your 7 years? Where do we go if we aren’t around here?
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    The Rapture Is in Olivet Discourse

    Harpazo is misused IMHO. I don’t deny the word as it does appear. But some today take a definition of “caught up”, as if brought upwards and apply it to “meet Christ in the air” and say this is what happens. But harpazo is actually the snatching by force something of great value before it’s...