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  1. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That's not what willfull sins consist of. God knows our weakness. All people are weak. The problem is with our strength...our strength to do what you are doing...resisting the truth. Remaining in unbelief. Our resisting going to God...going to the cross...excusing our sins and maintaining a...
  2. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes, the bible has reached into the Great White North....igloo territory. As you can see we also have electricity and internet. A lot of it is powered by polar bears chasing seals on a treadmill. ;) Yes...unless one is indoctrinated into an American style gospel. I think so. But human...
  3. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    You are confusing a righteous restitution with atonement. If restitution was all that was required to have intimacy with a holy God..then the law of Moses would have sufficed...no need for Jesus to die to provide us a new and living way to have fellowship with the Father. We are to restore...
  4. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Note to beginner bible readers. Corinthians is NOT Acts. In Acts those who were baptized in Jesus name still had to have hands laid on them to receive the baptism of the Spirit. THIS is from Acts (Notice this is NOT Corinthians for you bible enthusiasts out there) Acts 8:16 (For as yet he...
  5. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Not so. Baptism in the Spirit involves going to God and being put under the shadow of His wings in a full measure of grace. When someone is baptized in the Spirit they are filled to overflowing with His power and life. Many today...maybe because they don't visit people physically anymore...
  6. Episkopos

    Subjective Religions and the Objective Gospel

    How did Abel get accepted? And why didn't Cain? Why was Cain jealous of his brother? If they were like modern believers they would have both just assumed that they were accepted. Modern believers think that God gives them the choice if they are saved or not. The whole modern church is based on...
  7. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Are you saying that Jesus only saves at a future date? In your scheme is there ANOTHER covenant coming to take away the sins of Jacob? And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my...
  8. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Wrong question. All Israel will be saved. And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob: 27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
  9. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    So you are saying that the Israelites were just claiming to be God's people...but weren't? Is this from a psychologist' point of view? Or the bible? And since you are ignoring the bible...is it My people perish for lack of knowledge? Or those who SAY they are My people perish for lack of...
  10. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Yes...the sins that are past...as the bible teaches. Whoever sins willfully after that is NOT covered by that...according to that very same bible. What is willful sin? The same sin as the Israelites in the wilderness....testing God through stubbornness and unbelief. Hey, just look at those who...
  11. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Here is truth that will get religious posers in a snit. ;) When you get a sample of something (like grace at regeneration)...it is free...no cost. When you desire the product to the point where you go to the company that produces the product to BUY it...THEN you become known to the company...
  12. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    I'm not saying that he is a good Mormon...just a Mormon wannabe. ;) He is studying your book...why? Ask him? He's grasping at straws to explain away his own ignorance of the gospel and the bible generally.
  13. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    That is the biblical definition....reconciliation with a HOLY God. You are leaving out holiness. Righteous is as righteous does. No one who practices unrighteousness is deemed righteous by God.
  14. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    That's not a "how to"...that's a "how not to." :rolleyes:
  15. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    God loves Zion...He has chosen it for His habitation. There are many abiding places there...all available to us when we enter INTO Christ to be where He is. Ps. 132: For the LORD hath chosen Zion; he hath desired it for his habitation. 14 This is my rest for ever: here will I dwell; for I have...
  16. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    You are witnessing first hand what the truth does to the religious ego. The egos will try to shut down the message by personal attacks, false accusations and the like...since their own logic is shown for what it is...a carnal religious scheme that has no power over sin. But I leave that up to...
  17. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    It means everything to you. You give too much weight to a sample of grace. So, you own a lamp. Good. But the oil costs you everything to have. The thing about a proper balance, is to give the proper weight to things. I value a full measure of grace to be of more value than a sample of grace...
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    How to : Overcome

    False. Jesus was no babe in the woods. He was conscious of sin all around Him. But there was no sin permitted in Him. It's like saying a ship has no water consciousness...unless it is sunk. False. Those who enter into Christ partake of HIS POWER over sin. We have access to this grace by faith...
  19. Episkopos

    How to : Overcome

    Searing the sin consciousness so that you no longer care what you do...is NOT overcoming as Jesus overcame. Did Jesus merely suppress His conscience...to then proceed to sin without any remorse? No, Jesus was sinless. All who enter INTO Jesus also partake of His resurrection POWER to walk above...
  20. Episkopos

    Forgiveness vs Atonement

    Why are you defending yourself against the truth? I never mentioned you personally. All people are subject to the truth. This is not about human opinions or favouritism. Is there a part of you deep down that realizes that it is your religious ego that is trying to be saved? Where is the fear of...