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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    So if He does not annihilate Satan I see no probable reason to presume He treats the spirit of man differently - He is not a respecter of persons
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    This is not different than the case with angels, whom He also made and quickened So it is a question of what is God's nature? He does not annihilate Satan. If we say it is unjust that He does not annihilate man, then we have not escaped accusing Him.
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    So, in brief, you have argued that angels are spiritual beings, and spiritual things do not cease to exist, whereas earthly things do - correct? And you have also agreed that we ((and by extension all living souls, which includes all animal life)) are not merely physical beings but also have...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    עֶשְׁתֹּנָה is dialogismos in Greek, per LXX. it only appears in the OT once. it doesn't pertain to basic existence of thought but to specific reasoning, intentions, plans, judgements, disputation, deliberation etc. if i said 'i don't have any dialogismos' i wouldn't be saying that my...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    these diverse options give two immediately divergent implications: the Bible is true the Bible lies Saul went there in disguise. does the scripture still call him Saul? i don't care if you cite 100 verses with the implication that they make the Bible untrue. the fact will be that you have...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    it is evident that on this topic Marks & i believe what is written, and you do not. For the word of God is quick, and powerful, and sharper than any twoedged sword, piercing even to the dividing asunder of soul and spirit (Hebrews 4:12)
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    Elijah says the boys soul returns to him, as though it has departed. not that it has ceased to exist. the woman says the word of the LORD is in Elijah's mouth, and is true. ((1 Kings 17:24)) is this evidence she believes the lie of Satan, in your opinion?
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    yet the soul exists. it was no longer present in the boys body, and God put it back into the boys body, and the boy again lived, in the body. that's what the scripture says. Elijah did not pray "let a new copy of the boy's soul be created and deceive us into thinking the boy who was...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    oh? which verse in the account says that? or is it just something you quietly think which has no basis in the text?
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    define "death" ? For Thou wilt not leave my soul in hell; neither wilt Thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. (Psalm 16:10) hell there is a poor translation. it's sheol. according to scripture, at least some souls go there. some are left there & some are not left there. they exist...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    pardon me, but it is explicitly speaking of the soul continuing to exist apart from the separation of the spirit from the body, being an entity distinct from the body, and 'going somewhere' not once but twice. 'insanity' is an abstract & non-specific description of a temporary state of mind...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    bahahahahahahahahah!! o rly?? O LORD, thou hast brought up my soul from the grave (Psalm 30:3)
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    why can't created beings like angels die? who told you that? why did you assume that? Whose breath is the breath of life? how many breaths of life are there? define death and life as God defines it: I AM The Life (John 14:6) whoever does not have the Son does not have life (1 John 5:12)...
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    The Smoke of their Torment Ascends Forever

    **ahem** And he cried unto the LORD, and said, O LORD my God, hast Thou also brought evil upon the widow with whom I sojourn, by slaying her son? And he stretched himself upon the child three times, and cried unto the LORD, and said, O Lord my God, I pray Thee, let this child's soul come into...
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    meme dump!

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    Examples concerning Proverbs 24:27

    we must ask ourselves why vv. 28-29 are the absolutely perfect thing to say immediately after v.27 =] being a false witness against someone is the opposite of making fit your field - repaying evil for evil is neglecting your outside work & tearing down your house.
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    Examples concerning Proverbs 24:27

    well i mean have you ever farmed? in that application it's pretty obvious. what good is it to spend your afternoon cleaning up your kitchen, only to miss the planting or harvest and have no food to fill that kitchen with? and you can see this the same way with any job - unless you go and work at...
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    Secure Eternal Salvation

    oh you think they had indoor plumbing? or they washed their hands by sprinkling from a holy bowl? have you ever seen a mikveh? do you imagine it is a water-bottle for spritzing mist? lol baptizo = immersion. that's not a teaching of men; it's factual etymology. ((not that salvation or...
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    Secure Eternal Salvation

    the Bereans did not search scripture to find out if the 1st & 2nd hand accounts they heard about 'there's finally a prophet in Israel after so many years?' was true or not. the Bereans searched scripture to find out if the doctrine Paul & Silas were teaching them was true. leave the poor...