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  1. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    What have YOU created lately? Do you even know what CREATE means....
  2. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Is it game time? The NT does not teach that we should not do crack cocaine. Can we conclude that it is OK to do crack cocaine?
  3. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Doctrine comes from the revealed word of God. This convo has gone a little awry. It does NOT come from poetic language in the OT. THAT language is used to SUPPORT a doctrine, not to create it.
  4. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I did NOT say that a doctrine comes before scripture. Go back and read.
  5. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Man was made in the image of God. Does this mean that we are like Jesus? Can we heal persons? Forgive their sins? Does being made in the image of God mean that we have the nature of God?
  6. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Am I speaking to a Christian person? Then why are we debating the essence/nature/substance of Jesus? Jesus had two natures....a human nature and a divine nature. This was esblished in Christian theology and is not debatable. See Hidden, some things about Christianity CANNOT be debated. Why do...
  7. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    The NT does not teach that we will be creating. Man can MAKE things but, in theology, only God can create....which means to make something where nothing existed before. Also, we can wonder many things since our brain is always working. But we have to be careful not to go beyond what God has...
  8. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Here's the problem Trevor.... You claim to be Christian but do not adhere to Christian beliefs. You can believe what you want to about Jesus BUT You cannot change the nature of Jesus and the teachings of the gospel and still claim to be Christian. Jesus said: John 8:24 24 I told you that you...
  9. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Must leave after this, but please reply for tomorrow. Agreed. Jesus had two natures: Human/Divine It's called the hypostatic union...this was an attempt by the early church to explain this "person" Jesus who seemed to be both human and divine. BTW,,,The Savior also had to be God to bridge the...
  10. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    LOL No. It's using Psalm 2 to SUPPORT the fact that Jesus is God. Does the writer of Psalm believe that Jesus is God? See. It's the other way around. The doctrine comes first... it is PROVEN by OT poetic scripture.
  11. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Then you believe that the 2nd Person of the Trinity was created. That is not a Christian belief. Who was Jesus anyway? Was He just a man? Did He come into existance at His birth as Jesus? Then WHAT became flesh in John 1:14 which is referring to John 1:1? John 1:1, 14 1 In the beginning was...
  12. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    Acts 20:28-30 28 Keep watch over yourselves and all the flock of which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers. Be shepherds of the church of God,[a] which he bought with his own blood.[b] 29 I know that after I leave, savage wolves will come in among you and will not spare the flock. 30 Even...
  13. GodsGrace

    Who really created the Son of God?

    If Jesus existed in the mind and purpose (Logos) of God from the "beginning".... didn't the 2nd Person of the Trinity always exist? (as the Logos in John 1:1) Isn't the reconciling done?
  14. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    If you POST the scriptures you've MENTIONED, I'll be very happy to reply to them. Unfortunately, I don't have the NT memorized. I do believe I agree with that. But do you agree that the 2nd Person of the Trinity existed BEFORE that Person was generated in the way you describe? That's when the...
  15. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Since you like to keep your belief system, which is most probably not biblical, a mystery.... This ends our conversation.
  16. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    Hmmm. Guess you don't know about sarcasm. See post 881
  17. GodsGrace

    Can One Be Christian and Not Believe In The Trinity?

    I stand by what I said. But you REALLY should read post no. 881