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  1. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    Church is calling me at 8:06am Sunday.
  2. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    GodsGrace, On Line Opinion is the name of the Australian e-journal. Here is a list of the articles I've had published (please follow the link). I encourage those on this forum who can make a reasonable defence of the faith to join this forum. I warn you: Be prepared for antagonism. I'd rather...
  3. OzSpen

    Trinity vs. Tritheism: Understanding the Trinity.

    101G, I find this very confusing language. If 'Jesus is GOD, the only person' what doe that make the Father and the Holy Spirit? Are they inferior to and hold functions under Jesus, the Son? What do you mean by Jesus is 'his OWN share in flesh'? God the Father is spirit. God the Holy Spirit is...
  4. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    When you respond with a logical fallacy that doesn't deal with what I posted, you engage in fallacious reasoning. I will not respond to such fallacies. When you use them you destroy reasonable conversation.
  5. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    GodsGrace, When people do this, it is an example of erroneous reasoning. It's called a red herring. A Red Herring is a fallacy in which an irrelevant topic is presented in order to divert attention from the original issue. The basic idea is to "win" an argument by leading attention away from...
  6. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    You didn't deal with the specifics I raised.
  7. OzSpen

    What is Works Theology?

    H Richard, There is a prerequisite question needing an answer before we understand works theology (good works). That is: Are you born again by the Spirit of God (e.g. John 3:1-8 ESV)? Have you confessed your sin to God (1 John 1:8-10), repented (Luke 24:47), and received Jesus as your Lord and...
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    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    101G, Galatians 4:4-5 (ESV) answers the issue that you want to complicate: 'But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons'. Oz
  9. OzSpen

    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    APAK, With your mocking of me, you have committed the Appeal to Ridicule Logical Fallacy. This is erroneous reasoning. We can't have a reasonable conversation when you resort to this illogical approach. I have dealt with some of the biblical evidence for the orthodox doctrine of the Trinity...
  10. OzSpen

    Tribulation saints

    farouk, Matt 24:9ff indicates that this tribulation/persecution that leads to the great tribulation includes believers who are still on the earth. If it were not for the elect, this tribulation would not be cut short. Oz
  11. OzSpen

    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    Nice try, but that's not what these two verses teach. Isaiah 44:24 (ESV) states: 'Thus says the Lord, your Redeemer, who formed you from the womb: “I am the Lord, who made all things, who alone stretched out the heavens, who spread out the earth by myself.... According to Isa 47:4...
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    Tribulation saints

    AND???
  13. OzSpen

    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    APAK, This verse and others in the NT do not agree with your statement that Jesus 'has a God'. God, the Son, is regarded as God. He has the attributes of deity: (1) Eternity (Jn 1:15; 8:58; 17:5, 24); (2) Omniscience (Jn 2:24-25; 16:30; 21:17); (3) Omnipresence (Mt 18:20; 28:20; Jn 3:13)...
  14. OzSpen

    Tribulation saints

    Did you say in one of the above posts you don't know Greek grammar? I do and have taught NT Greek at College level.
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    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    atp, I have difficulties with some of the statements in this thread as they relate to orthodox biblical teaching on the Trinity. To say that "If you have Jesus, you have the Father and you have the Holy Spirit all in one beautiful package" is not the litmus text for the Trinity. Instead, if I...
  16. OzSpen

    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    101G, Your teaching that God the Father is only a title that signifies FIRST is not what Scripture teaches. The Father is a person who has attributes of personhood: Intellect: According to Matt 6:32, 'For the pagans run after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need...
  17. OzSpen

    The One True Almighty God IS Father, Son and Holy Spirit=The One True Almighty God!!

    While there is one God, the Father is a separate person from the person of the Son and the person of the Holy Spirit.