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  1. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I agree! I just would have worded it in the affirmative rather than the negative … We serve a higher Law (Matthew 22:37-40) founded on love, so EVERYTHING we do is motivated by faith (Romans 14:17).
  2. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Would applying that message to every Israelite living from the birth of Jesus until John the Baptist called then to “Repent for the Kingdom of God is near” impact it’s meaning? (Do THOSE Christians ‘not count’?) [shrug] ... Just wondering out loud since James was associated with the Judaisers.
  3. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Were they once? I don’t know. The author of Hebrews has worded it as a ‘hypothetical’. “If they shall fall away” … note that it does not say they DID fall away, nor does it say the DID NOT fall away. It only offers a hypothetical “IF”. Who are THEY? … it does not tell us. It does not...
  4. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I actually agree with this, adding: “So then, my beloved, just as you have always obeyed, not as in my presence only, but now much more in my absence, work out your salvation with fear and trembling; for it is God who is at work in you, both to will and to work for His good pleasure.”...
  5. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Let’s assume … just for the sake of discussion … that I agree with everything in your post. Did you ever actually address my question about the paradox of Paul claiming an CONFIDENCE that no man can possess (not even an Apostle)?
  6. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    How could Paul state that he was confident that God would complete the good work in those at Philippi, since not even God could be certain of that ... some could sin, turn apostate and be vomited out of the "hand" of God [If I can be permitted to mix biblical word pictures to reflect the NO...
  7. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Just for the record, it is because of the context of the long years of working together as fellow laborers for the Gospel (verse 5 & 7), that Paul can be confident that the truth about GOD FINISHING WHAT GOD STARTS (verse 6) applies to the Church (people) at Philippi. You are welcome to...
  8. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    "For what it is worth, I think Mr Stanley is incorrect in his understanding of Grace and may have ventured into error that needed correction. I simply object to the slandering of Christian brothers without evidence of any wrong or, worse, with false statements. I feel as strongly about those...
  9. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Thank you for engaging what I believe without simply refuting what I do not believe (ie: “God saves us to be able to live the most selfish, self centered, and sinful life possible, with no repentance, and remain in Christ”.) One point you made immediately jumped out: Christians can have...
  10. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    You say the "good work" was MEN's work ... ... although you CLAIM that "JF and B commentary agrees", it most certainly does not: "Any work that God begins, He will surely finish (1Sa 3:12)." ... JF and B say GOD's WORK. "Not even men begin a work at random. Much more the fact of His beginning...
  11. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Point of information: "IN YOU" appeared in the translations YOU posted which was modern and not "archaic 16th century Elizabethan English". The words appear in EVERY translation because they are integral to the original Greek that is being translated.
  12. atpollard

    Why do you take the risk of eating murdered animals?

    Proverbs 17:22 [NASB] A joyful heart is good medicine [lit. 'causes good healing'], But a broken spirit dries up the bones. I'll take a 'joyful heart' over 'dried up bones' any day! ;)
  13. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    So you are going to just “Arminian highlight” verse 6 with a Sharpie and the rest of the paragraph reads just fine. Who cares what good work GOD is doing, it is all about what works WE do. Got it.
  14. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Honestly, I am unsure if we ARE brothers. Nothing in the last topic suggests that you hold any love for any Calvinist; every word seemed bent on slandering and attacking and misrepresenting Reformed Theology to the point that one could accuse you of lying and defend a charge of slander by...
  15. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    Complete “IN YOU” … you cannot just discard words without changing the meaning.
  16. atpollard

    Why do you take the risk of eating murdered animals?

    Respectfully, how can you be sure your spiritual contact does not mean you harm?
  17. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    I found it as quickly as you did. He also makes claims that are largely unsubstantiated or difficult to verify. Here is the opening from that page: For those who are regular listeners of his broadcasts, to hear eternal security taught, directly or indirectly, is not uncommon! This is so...
  18. atpollard

    Grace-Haters are incapable of honestly admitting what the (P) in Calvinism really means.

    GOD BEGAN THE WORK. GOD WILL FINISH THE WORK. What is this work that God began in you? If you answer "salvation", then welcome to Calvinism. If you object that you began your salvation and you will finish it ... then welcome to (Semi-)Pelagianism. If you hedge and haw somewhere in the middle...