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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I do understand your position in Dan. 9:27. So then, let's entertain both scenarios being proposed as consummation #1 for 70AD and consummation #2 for in the future. Already we have a problem. There is only ONE time period for "THE consummation". However, lets move on. In the time of a...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Your conclusion, being as far out there as anyone elses, is the results of your own mind attempting to understand prophecy through the wisdom of men, aka human understanding. I believe we all must think differently. Not as men, but rather as God. 1 Cor. 2 [16] For who hath known the mind of the...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Amen!! I agree 100% I do not agree to a single consummation that is ONLY connected to the destruction of the temple and Jerusalem. Please see my edited post #310 However, I do agree to  "THE" single consummation that SHALL come AFTER the symbolic 1000 years of God's Grace has ended, at the...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    So then, you do agree with me that KJV Dan. 9:27 has everything to do with Jesus. Dan. 9[27] And he [Jesus] shall confirm the [New] covenant with many for one week: and in the midst of the week he [Jesus] shall cause the sacrifice and the oblation to cease, and for the overspreading of...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I am still trying figure how it is that you mean the 2300 days/(years?) clock BEGAN ticking when God made the covenant with Noah. The 2300 days in Daniel has absolutely nothing to do with Noah. Approx. 523 BC.- KJV Daniel 8 [13] Then I heard one saint speaking, and another saint said unto that...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    No! Scofield's error of belief is his attempt to manipulate the scriptures by moving the 70th week of the 70 week prophecy into the far future and assigning that prophetic length of time of seven years to be attributed to a future Antichrist of his fabrication. In so doing, Scofield's words are...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I understood that you perceive that the 70th week still remains to be fulfilled. My take up with you is not about the 70 week prophecy, but rather the prophecy about "the 2300 days" and the "little horn", as described in Daniel. You did a very good job in revealing the "little horn" character...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Lol....I'm espousing Scofield dispensational futurism?? On the contrary, I am continually revealing and countering that corrupt false doctrine, proving that it is a lie from the bottomless pit. I am not going on the defensive here. I am simply proving that fundamentalist church-ianity has made...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    As for the time of Noah and the flood, I do not accept following any method of observing time from that point, to accurately come to 2300 years. As to the above about Antiochus lV Epiphanes (A4E) I do not know how you are meaning what you are referencing. A4E was a pivotal figure prophetically...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    I do not need graphs, nor do I have any. I don't believe or learn the Lord's truth according to "the wisdom of men", but rather by the scriptures and the anointing of the Lord's Holy Spirit within me. However, I will give you this much: The days "of great tribulation" began in the days soon...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Your evidence is what I referred to as being by "the wisdom of men". "Word crunching" is not to be compared to the Holy Spirit's teaching us individually. Be careful of the "Scribes and the Pharisees" of our days, who have been polluted by the denominational Bible Colleges and Seminaries...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Actually, in post #230 Ronald D. Milam does a phenominal job of providing the historical record about the era and history surrounding Antiochus lV Epiphanes, the "little horn". My comments on it are in #239. Unfortunately, though his work is that good for detail, he also has indirectly slipped...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Hi Ronald, I must say that I enjoyed the detail of your historical work about A4E and all the background that went along with it. Years ago, I also undertook the exhausting work of comparing the details of that era of A4E with the prophecies of Daniel and the historical details found in 1&2...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    If you cannot agree with the historical record of 1&2 Maccabees, in conjunction with the prophecy in Daniel about Antiochus lV Epiphanes, being the ONLY "little horn" that shall ever be, then you still have not learned anything about the 2300 days prophecy and Judas Maccabeus, the Captain of the...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Seriously, there is only ONE "the consummation", and it is by fire as we have both shown and agree. So, why it is that you want to continue on with fabricating another "consummation" only tells me that you are attempting to hold onto a false belief to give it support. I was hoping that you could...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    You may not know this, but you have been given your understanding according to the Scofield rendition of the 70 weeks, that has taken an "upperseat" within the fundamentalist churches since the 1960s. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/C._I._Scofield
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Dan. 9:27 reveals that God will NOT allow two events to come to pass during His present Age of Grace (the symbolic one thousand years): 1. The rebuilding of the temple in Israel. 2. His stopping of the pouring out of His Holy Spirit to repentant believers in Jesus. .....he [Jesus] shall make it...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Thanks for agreeing to 2/3 of what I had written in post #202 So also, I have shown that I do not disagree with the temple being made desolate and then destroyed in 70AD. But, you do show that you believe that the "pouring" out of the Holy Spirit ended at the same time of the consummation in...
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    You might find a few of my posts in parallel to your thinking about the 70th week of the 70 week prophecy.
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    In Daniel 8, 11, and 12, is A4E meant? Or is a future anti-christ meant?

    Of course....there is a correct Amil view of the 1260 days, the 42 mos. and/or the 3.5 years, but unfortunately the "truth" that can be presented about it, "is stranger than the fiction" being spouted here.