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  1. ButterflyJones

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    Would saying we work towards salvation by doing works of righteousness qualify as someone having said we are saved by our works?
  2. ButterflyJones

    Renewable Salvation

    Which as you know is contrary to what Jesus said. It's so obvious. If we have to strive to save ourselves Jesus wasted his time. And spilled his blood for nothing.
  3. ButterflyJones

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    Of course it's false. A lie of the Devil. We have been saved by grace through faith. And this of God! Not of ourselves! So that none may boast. But they do. And they are false.
  4. ButterflyJones

    Renewable Salvation

    What should trouble Christians here as I see it is when someone enters in and attempts to promote a false gospel that makes Jesus a liar and fraud. On purpose! Jesus gives us eternal life. God's salvation to that end is by his grace alone. Irrevocable. No one shall take us from his hand...
  5. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    I would suggest when you confess to trolling Christians you cannot then hope to be credible trying to defend your perspective on so less perfection through Christ. That's the last I'll say to you. Christians are very discerning. We see you. (A P. s. Fun fact to fellow Christians. Gilligan's...
  6. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    There is no opportunity for discussion when a troll is admittedly participating on a Christians discussion site. At least you recognize your sin of trolling. That's a first step.
  7. ButterflyJones

    KJV vs. other translations

    My family used the KJV exclusively when I was growing up in the church. I now find the NET Bible useful. The Mounce Greek translation version that cross references English and Greek text is wonderful. I like the English Standard Version. And the Holman version has a tremendous history as to...
  8. ButterflyJones

    Do you think there is anything positive about the Democratic Party?

    Today's Left as examples by Democrats in office? No.
  9. ButterflyJones

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    The point that is often missed regarding the thieves on their crosses, each one on either side of Christ, and Jesus on his cross between them is that both men were mocking Jesus at first. While nailed or tied to their cross waiting to suffer a very slow agonizing death. Then the one thief came...
  10. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    Thank you for choosing to troll elsewhere :)
  11. ButterflyJones

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    Please make the effort yourself. https://www.openbible.info/topics/ That site allows for such a search. Enter, "Baptism", or any variation thereof. It will link scripture to the Bible gateway site which allows you to also click a link and read the whole chapter for context. Remember that...
  12. ButterflyJones

    The thief on the cross misconceptions

    I would suggest before you enter a Christian community and the Bible discussion forum you may at the very least read the whole of the New Testament. This way it won't become immediately obvious you are playing games. Because you appear to enjoy watching to see how often, how long, Christians...
  13. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    I did respond to your post. :) Repeat yourself as often as you like. If your point is to challenge Christians to deny God's word, understood through the exercise of proper Hermeneutics, Exegesis, and Apologetics study, I think you will find yourself to grow in frustration.
  14. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    In context to God's having predestined all things according to his will and plan and recalling Acts 2 as one example, every identifier thereafter, as in "all" and "the world", with regard to his plan of salvation is relative.
  15. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    As scripture rightly states. Along with Election I think much is missed in scripture if ,when, a reader is predisposed to presumptions of Calvinism .
  16. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    Universal Salvation is not in scripture. God predestination his Elect is. Romans 8 For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in order that he might be the firstborn among many brothers. And those whom he predestined he also called, and those whom he...
  17. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    Thank you.:) Maybe consider that as ours is a personal relationship with God. And as such we each have a personal understanding of the Father's message and intent for us.
  18. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    @EternallyGrateful, how is Ronald saying you don't understand mocking you when you earlier agreed you don't understand?
  19. ButterflyJones

    Christian Predeterminism Exposed

    No, that's not me. I wanted a picture for my profile and I thought the sloth baby was the cutest.
  20. ButterflyJones

    Do you think American society has gone more towards the Left or the Right in recent years?

    They can't change without the intervention of the Holy Spirit.