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BTW, I think they are more BROKE, than woke.

Dating across the political aisle is generally not a good idea, but it CAN work. In fact, my father was a Republican who was married to a staunch Democrat. Her brother was even in the Democratic House of Representatives.

Where did you find that fruitcake?

An interesting note is that "the old hymns" we older people think is "real" church were the same kind of modern, contemporary, horrible new-fangled introductions that our great grandparents (like us today) considered Heretical, and a disgrace to God. And our great grandparents' hymns would have...

Getting closer....

Just watching some of the particularly religiously-slanted episodes of The Waltons (or many of the old films) reminds me, all too well, that the "religion" a lot of people had in those days was often quite legalistically phony and frightening.

Ok, I said what I could....

Well, a word to the wise should be sufficient. I was not joking. That kind of person can, and will, go straight to the law or the media and cause you a lot of heartache if you do not handle the situation carefully.

What is a "Durkin?"

That is desperate rabbit trail chasing of which I was not even asking. (Besides, don't you know the moon is not even a "light?") Go to Joseph's dream for just one example, of many, where you are told what the sun and moon represent in Scripture.

Are you saying we don't need to be aware of the different argumentative ploys people use?

Pray a lot about it first. You may be given an idea on how to handle them that will work, and not get you in legal trouble for refusing service. (remember what happened to the baker who wouldn't bake a wedding cake for the homosexual couple.)

I thought I saw Chicken Little.

What do references to the sun and moon represent in other parts of the Bible?

It will not save you. It is not necessarily "lying." And, it is not "looking down your nose." In another thread, I offered anyone on this forum a free copy of a funny little book that tells you all about those things. (even posted a link to the book online) From the book: A straw man...

You must have another Paula White in mind. LOL

It all sounds like an "in death" understanding to me. LOL

I think we could learn so very much more from the Bible if we didn't have this incessant desire gnawing at us to eagerly and gleefully ferret-out calamities, catastrophes, and fire & brimstone. We are like moths drawn to the flame of mayhem and destruction.

You hear people screaming "Strawman" all the time here. There is the cutest little book on that subject, and more at An Illustrated Book of Bad Arguments Or, I can send you a free copy, fully illustrated, if you like.

If Annihilation is correct, why should anyone give a hoot if they live or die? Supposedly, they will never know anything happened anyway. Just "BLINK", and.... Oblivion. No memory, no future, no feeling, no awareness of anything.