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  1. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    You really are funny. God’s sovereignty is not about man’s ability to make any choices at all. No one that I know believes that people are incapable of choosing fish or chicken for dinner without God deciding for them. I do believe that God already knows whether you will choose fish or...
  2. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    A non-electronic word search.
  3. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    o_O Even if you say something that I agree with (like 'God does not save all') and I say that I agree with you (because God really does not save all), you KNOW that I don't agree with you? You ARE wrong in your claims about what others (like "Calvinists") believe. We do not believe that God...
  4. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Synod of Dort: (from wikipedia) The Synod of Dort (also known as the Synod of Dordt or the Synod of Dordrecht) was an international Synod held in Dordrecht in 1618–1619, by the Dutch Reformed Church, to settle a divisive controversy initiated by the rise of Arminianism. The first meeting was on...
  5. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    You don't LISTEN, you just WAIT TO SPEAK. I do not care what the ECF wrote (especially a single sentence or two taken out of context), I care about what the Bible says. I do not care about your opinions on "FAIR", I care about what Scripture teaches is TRUE. You do not wish to engage in a...
  6. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    St Clement of Rome (born AD 35 and Died AD 99) Apostle Peter (born AD 1 and died AD 64) Apostle Paul (born AD 5 and died AD 64) When St Clement was born, Peter was 34 years old and Paul was 30 years old. St Clement was 29 years old when Peter and Paul died in prison. St Clement was 61 years old...
  7. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    See my response to #2 above. God knows and tells us.
  8. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Even if all of the verses referenced support your statements (and I have some doubts about those verses actually stating that God gave men the choice to be children of God), that answers HOW rather than WHY. Only God can explain WHY he does things, and in this case, we are fortunate that he...
  9. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    I completely agree with your answer and your understanding of those scriptures as supporting your answer.
  10. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    So many errors in so short a post, I hardly know where to begin. Let’s start with this: Which ECFs knew Apostles? What is the Synod of Dort?
  11. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    God answers this question in scripture. Does God save all? Why does God save those that God saved? What does God say about His reasons?
  12. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    I prefer to read what the Apostles wrote rather than the ECF.
  13. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Sorry, I don’t play scripture pong. I quoted Romans 8 and you made empty statements of opinion about Romans 8 that you have yet to support with exegesis of Romans 8.
  14. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Not “can be unwilling” but “are unwilling” ... “THERE IS NONE WHO UNDERSTANDS, THERE IS NONE WHO SEEKS FOR GOD” [Rom 3:11]
  15. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    :rolleyes: Why don’t you go through Romans 8 and explain how it is all about God choosing those who obeyed the gospel. Given that premise, what is the “gospel” (because a salvation that depends on OUR act of obedience does not sound like good news).
  16. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Like this? And we know that God causes all things to work together for good to those who love God, to those who are called according to His purpose. For those whom He foreknew, He also predestined to become conformed to the image of His Son, so that He would be the firstborn among many...
  17. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Where does that say that “People must still be willing” [to be saved or God cannot save them]? Where does that say that “People must still be willing” [to be saved or God cannot save them]? Where does that say that “People must still be willing” [to be saved or God cannot save them]...
  18. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    They used their free will, which is a slave to their “human nature”, to CHOOSE to do the wrong thing and God did not STOP them. (That is compatibilist free will). Saul attempted to use his free will to have more Christians killed, in accordance with his “natural” desires, but God did STOP him...
  19. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    That is not what compatibilism says that God does. You should reread the entire article and see what Compatibilism really teaches. Then you can reject the true teaching rather than a strawman version of that teaching. (Personally, I could not care less whether you believe in compatible free...
  20. atpollard

    When, where, or how was free will taken away?

    Been there, done that ... you rejected the scriptures and countered with your opinions then threw other verses up to prove the word of God wrong rather than explaining the correct meaning. No need to plow the same row twice.