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  1. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    The topic is about salvation with no mention of a heavenly reward in the Old Testament. For the Hebrews/Israelites/ Jews, as far as Heaven was concerned that was where Yahweh and angel were. Not the abode of humans. The Old Testament does not speak of bad people in Hell or good people in...
  2. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    T Now this is a problem. How can you ask--->So there were no OT believers? In response to----> Salvation was not possible until Yeshua passed on the cross. If this is how you read things you have no hope of understanding the scriptures. Get someone to read them to you and then explain them to you.
  3. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Salvation was not possible until Yeshua passed on the cross. For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish, but have eternal life. And there is salvation in no one else; for there is no other name under heaven that has been given...
  4. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Your try to propose a belief that is not biblical and insultive as you go. I think I have show great patience considering your sad examples of a preposterous belief.
  5. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    So far your "argument" only exists in your head.
  6. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    I ask then: Did God reject his people? By no means! I am an Israelite myself, a descendant of Abraham, from the tribe of Benjamin. 2 God did not reject his people, whom he foreknew. Don’t you know what Scripture says in the passage about Elijah—how he appealed to God against Israel: 3 “Lord...
  7. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    A fireman is your salvation if he rescues you from a fire. The salvation this is talking about it physical salvation.
  8. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Never said that were not devote Hebrews/Israelites/Jews. But if we go through the period of the kings we see a lot that worshipped other god...to.
  9. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Genesis 3:15 has nothing to do with Yeshua. Yahweh never promised salvation and the word promise does not occur in the Old Testament. Yeshua was not the hope of Israel. Israel was hoping for a human warlord king. The phrase remnant seed does not occur in the scriptures. Have you ever...
  10. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    I have already explained that in post 574. I will copy and paste here... In Judaism, rewards and punishments occurred during their lifetime. Hebrews/Israelites, Jews did/do not believe in Hell. Yahweh never threatened them with Hell. According to Judaism all souls go to Sheol.
  11. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    Things about Old Testament Judaism..... In the Old Testament, Yahweh did not offered Heaven as a reward or a destinations for humans. So salvation was not only not possible in the Old Testament, it wasn't even offered. In Judaism, rewards and punishments occurred during their lifetime...
  12. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    No, denied "elect remnant" I gave you the scriptures regarding remnant. The word remnant means left over or remaining. Really not selected or elected. A small part of a larger group. If the scriptures were going to designate a remnant group elect they would say that. In the Old Testament remnant...
  13. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    LOL The New Testament is Christian. We believe salvation is only through the name of Yeshua. The Old Testament is Judaism. They believe worshipping any other name but Yahweh is idolatry. Two different religions.
  14. Grailhunter

    Biblical proof that we the New Testament Church are true Israel today

    I gave you the scriptures discussing remnant.