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This is pretty close and also the reality of it all. Trying to mix Judaism and Christianity produces a very weird religion. Christ warned not to do that. 21 “No one sews a patch of unshrunk cloth on an old garment. Otherwise, the new piece will pull away from the old, making the tear worse. 22...

No dispensationalists live in reality. Has nothing to do with respect, just tell it like it is.

A Jew is not a Christian. For the Jewish-Christian and Gentile Christians circumcision meant nothing. So physical or spiritual means nothing. Circumcision was a requirement of the Mosaic Law, Christians do not observe the Mosaic Law. But Paul had an answer for those that were fixated on...

As I have explained repeatedly, there is nothing admirable about Israel, physical or spiritual. Spiritual failing God. God pretty much stomped them into the ground. Lost their kingdom, enslaved by Pagans, rejected by Christianity, they were treated like witches during the witch-hunts, tortured...

Look down, are you circumcised our uncircumcised? Your pee is not spiritual. It is a physical thing. Paul was saying that the uncircumcised Gentile that believed were as religiously right as the Jews that believed in Christ were.

Dispensationalists......History does not happen in one minute.....they happen over time periods. And each time period has it circumstances and effects on the periods afterwards. David's kingdom was a physical kingdom that happened in a time period. And yes we are in the fullness of the New...

I have said it is not meaningless. You cannot tell us what citizenship in a spiritual Israel means? Do they get a card? Well since Israel did not exist at this time there is not ethnic Israel. I have answered your question quite pointedly.

What is he saying there? I am an Indian if I am one inwardly. But really am I an Indian? Paul makes comparisons. What good is it to be a Jew if you did not accept Christ as the Messiah and Savior? For the Pagans that accepted Christ as the Messiah and Savior they are religiously equal to the...

Only in your head we are Jews.

Again, I did not say it was meaningless. Yes the readers can look back and see that you have a fixation on Israel. And I am sure that some wonder why? I agree with some of that. Blessings of Israel? I guess you define blessings different than me. Solomon worshipped Pagan gods and built...

Dispies is not a word. But it is clear that you are not understanding the scriptures and so you would rather read your own fantasy world into them.

Is Christ a metaphor? Silly question. Spiritual hope in what? Union with God? You mean reconciliation with God....no not a metaphor. Are you confused regarding metaphors and reality?

Not avoiding you were saying I was thinking a metaphor is not important or meaningful and I explained that is not true. Can you be a physical citizen in a metaphor? Do we need to be fitted for the armor of God? Can we run for mayor in a spiritual Israel? It is a metaphor, a thought, a comparison.

As a whole we are descendants of the Gentile-Christians.....Pagans that converted to Christianity, not Judaism or Israel. Israel meant very little to them. Now Paul on the on the hand, like I said was surely sad that his brethren that had not accepted Christ had missed the boat so to speak...

What is a spiritual Israel? In the heart, in Heaven, floating around here and there.

I did not say that metaphors do not have meaning. The Parables of the Gospels, the verses about the body of Christ and putting on the full armor of God.....lots of meaning. In this case I think Paul was retroflecting....reminiscing.

Again a metaphor. Can you join a nation that does not exist. Today we cannot join the Roman Empire or be a citizen of the Roman Empire because.....it does not exist anymore. The Gentiles were converted to Christianity. The were not made Jewish. They were never allowed in the Temple.

No I am telling the truth...the facts. It means they were thinking of it in their minds.....there is no real citizenship in a metaphorical concept. No place to live in a metaphorical Israel. No place to live in a spiritual Israel. No way to govern in metaphorical Israel. Yeshua would be the King...

When was the nation of Israel established? Israel first became a nation in the Old Testament with the Exodus from Egypt, around the 13th–15th century BCE. When did the Nation of Israel cease to exist? The Northern Kingdom of Israel fell to the Assyrians in 722 BCE, and the Southern Kingdom of...

Humans think of metaphorical concepts.....nothing material.... Like the body of Christ, it is not a physical thing. No one could say, lets go to the nation of Israel, because it did not exist during the New Testament. But they could sit around the campfire and think about Israel.